How does one "choose" a Belief System?

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GeoFee said:
Hi Pavlos,

Sorry for being unclear. Let me try one more time.

You said:

And I asked:


The question wonders if you are able to produce evidence to verify your statement, "...faith has zero basis in reality...", quoted above?

George
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You want him to provide evidence that there is no evidence?
 
There is suicidal action ... and those that believe in mar tears ... weep my children ... over what you have done to our self ...

Schism ... is like a cut out --- Asclepius! Thus the greater god left this mortal conflict to resolve itself as an onus! Tis layered as onionism ... aethereal folk understand ... Aesthetic tales ... AEs Ops ...
 
Jae said:
"Grafted out?" Is that even a thing @Pontifex Geronimo 13? The metaphor is to plants.
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I guess it's a thing. You graft roses and grapes and fruit trees onto a "base stock" which is shorter, or hardier, or something that the graft doesn't have on its own. So if you graft out, you took Christianity off of the base of Judaism. But then it dies, unless you graft it onto something else, so as an analogy, yeah, needs work.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I guess it's a thing. You graft roses and grapes and fruit trees onto a "base stock" which is shorter, or hardier, or something that the graft doesn't have on its own. So if you graft out, you took Christianity off of the base of Judaism. But then it dies, unless you graft it onto something else, so as an analogy, yeah, needs work.
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The dichotomy as I've learned it is grafted on vs. cut off.
 
dreamerman said:
FFS. Really? Same could be said of Roman Catholics. They only follow the bible, all other denominations have been grafted out. Of course I wouldn't make that assumption but feel free to do so.:unsure:
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This based on the Vati Canous ... the dog goes on ... can yew bare it?
 
Whatever, it still fails as an analogy. If Christianity is the graft onto the root stock, when you remove the graft you kill it, or have to find another "host for it" or root it and hope it manages on its own (which is exactly why you grafted it in the first place, because it was too tall, or not hardy enough, or...) What continues on unharmed is the root on which you grafted the other material - it will just start shooting up its native vegetation. Ergo, why some of your fancy roses suddenly come up as little white strawberry flowers one year. The graft has died. The main shoot (usually a wild native rugosa) has revitalized.
 
And you know, when we're talking about what we know via our senses, the OP did mention another sense, the intuitive/mystic sense. You certainly can't prove it or quantify it, any more than you can prove love or peace of mind or joy or awe or hope. All one can do is describe it. The only thing that causes me to sort of stick to the edge of panentheism is one single mystical dream (in the form of a 'message' from a person close to me, deceased some months previous), that somehow felt like Julian of Norwich's "and all will be well", implying some degree of benevolence at a macro level at least. And even saying that feels like wishful thinking. However, I think humans need to be kind to each other in some sort of community, so I just metaphorize the word God away and away and away and hang out where I'm comfortable.
 
Kimmio said:
Maybe some are saying, "that's okay - that rose bush is a bit to prickly for me to be part of anyway." Metaphorically speaking.
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Such is a prick of the gorse ... that stuff between fields of extreme intellect and emotions believing not in mediums ... tis that PSI 'n as icons as rejected ... tis paranormal ... yet Heh's beyond us ... bump in the dark Ness ..
 
Jae said:
@Pontifex Geronimo 13 - Jesus was a Jew, was he not following the God of the Bible?
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Yes. But do you think he died for the the glory of a kingdom of the litigious that was already in place? If it was and remains all about the letter of the law, what exactly did Jesus change for them and how would being a Messianic Jew be any different from a legalistic Pharisee, whom Jesus would challenge?
 
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