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unsafe said:
BetteTheRed -------your quote ------ I'm going to tell you, @unsafe, that this quote and this image grosses me out AND offends me. Canadian children are not at any particular risk, despite our spectacular lack of god in our schools,

unsafe says
If you are offended that is your choice -----if you think man can protect the schools better that God that is your choice -----I don't ----
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It is your choice to post arrogant things about god not being in schools so this is why he allows school shootings to happen. That is all on you. You can't hide behind your god for that. You chose to post that not the HS not your god you. So when people call you on it and they will don't hide behind your god for what you post. Take ownership for it. If I post something on here and I am drunk at the time I can't blame the bottle for what I post. Well I can try but in the end it is all on me. I chose to drink and I chose to post after drinking too much, BTW I am not drinking anything but coffee right now. Sober as a judge.:)
 
unsafe said:
Jae -----your quote ------Gold and silver do not automatically money make unsafe

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That is the biggest cop out I have ever heard Jae ------your giving Man the Glory for creating gold and silver Jae -----Wow ---Hope you don't teach that to your Church ----False Doctrine -----

Your Quote ------The idea that God created money does fit nicely into the prosperity gospel I feel you cherish so.


unsafe says
Any by your bringing it up again and again Jae shows your Obsession with Money and your desire to have it in my view --- you can't stop talking about it ----:)

better take a look at this Jae ------

ob·ses·sion
əbˈseSHən/
noun
    • an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.
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unsafe - I never said I believe humanity created gold and silver. I have shared countless times on WC2 that I am a young earth Creationist. My point was that gold and silver are gold and silver - they are metals but not necessarily money.

As for the prosperity gospel, I have only ever spoken against it. Can you truthfully say the same unsafe?
 
Gold and silver are no different than fool's gold. It is we who put a value on it. Not god. The same goes for paper money. It is no different than any other piece of paper till the government of the day gives it a monetary value.
 
dreamerman said:
Gold and silver are no different than fool's gold. It is we who put a value on it. Not god. The same goes for paper money. It is no different than any other piece of paper till the government of the day gives it a monetary value.
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Though governments really don't control the value of money any more. They have, for the most part, ceded that to central banks like the Bank of Canada. And those central banks' ability to manage the value of the money has been constrained by the developed of currency markets. Which is why our dollar fluctuates, sometimes wildly, over the course of even short time periods.

Whoever controls its value, though, money and value attached to it is most definitely a human creation, not a divine one.
 
unsafe said:
Waterfall ---your quote -----Agree, but it would be nice if He would use some of that power and step in.

Your Quote -----Oh, just cause the guns to be unable to fire any bullets......

unsafe says
You think God should have stepped in -----why should He step in when He was Spiritually taken out -----People don't give God the time of day but they wonder why and get angry when he doesn't step in when things go wrong -----

God promises protection for His true followers -----

God protected Daniel from the Lion ----He protected David from the giant -----He brought His people out of slavery ------etc etc


The Schools are at fault ----God is their protection -----they abandoned Him -----He is always available -------they don't want Him

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As I pointed out to an American evangelical friend on Facebook (who's gone strangely silent seemingly with no reply) given that Canada and Western Europe are far more secular than the United States and have also removed prayer, etc. from their public schools, if the equation is "no God in school = violence in schools" then there should be at least as much (or maybe far more) violence in Canadian and Western Europeans schools than in American schools. There's not. Violence in American schools is off the charts compared to anything that happens in Canada or Western Europe. Thus, the equation fails and is really just another way for Western Christians to pathetically pretend that they're being persecuted in some way by the fact that the government no longer promotes Christian faith.

Plus, as I pointed out, God does not have to be "allowed" into schools - God is there, and if you think that God isn't then you have a pathetically weak view of a God who is dependent on us, rather than the other way around.
 
unsafe said:
BetteTheRed -------your quote ------ I'm going to tell you, @unsafe, that this quote and this image grosses me out AND offends me. Canadian children are not at any particular risk, despite our spectacular lack of god in our schools,

unsafe says
If you are offended that is your choice -----if you think man can protect the schools better that God that is your choice -----I don't ----
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And if you think that god protects schools better than gun control laws, your "thinker" is clearly very broken.
 
Waterfall said:
@unsafe, I think you may be upset that the Christian children aren't asking for their own room to pray in at school.
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The difference between Muslim and Christian children (and why Muslim children are given prayer rooms in school) is because Muslims MUST (according to their faith) pray at certain times of the day. Christians are not under the same restriction. Thus, a Christian child can manage to go from 9 am to 4 pm (or whatever the hours are) without praying and it isn't an offence to their faith. Muslim children can't. They have to pray at certain times. It's a reasonable accommodation.

Once again - pathetically weak Western Christians who think everybody's out to get them. Boo Hoo.

My God is too strong to be concerned with such pettiness.
 
revsdd said:
Plus, as I pointed out, God does not have to be "allowed" into schools - God is there, and if you think that God isn't then you have a pathetically weak view of a God who is dependent on us, rather than the other way around.
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Amen!
 
revsdd said:
The difference between Muslim and Christian children (and why Muslim children are give prayer rooms in school) is because Muslims MUST (according to their faith) pray at certain times of the day. Christians are not under the same restriction. Thus, a Christian child can manage to go from 9 am to 4 pm (or whatever the hours are) without praying and it isn't an offence to their faith. Muslim children can't. They have to pray at certain times. It's a reasonable accommodation.

Once again - pathetically weak Western Christians who think everybody's out to get them. Boo Hoo.

My God is too strong to be concerned with such pettiness.
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Yes aware of the praying that is required for a muslim.....some Christians seem to want to take this away even though it isn't a requirement for them....petty for sure. Even still it appears even if someone wanted to have a bible class or teach the Christian religion within the school in a separate room for those interested, it is possible. So the Christians that oppose muslim prayer in schools.....suck it up buttercup, IMO.
 
Waterfall said:
Yes aware of the praying that is required for a muslim.....some Christians seem to want to take this away even though it isn't a requirement for them....petty for sure. Even still it appears even if someone wanted to have a bible class or teach the Christian religion within the school in a separate room for those interested, it is possible. So the Christians that oppose muslim prayer in schools.....suck it up buttercup, IMO.
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Is IVCF (Inter-varsity Christian Fellowship) still operating? We had a chapter in my high school as a sanctioned extra-curricular group. They met at lunch in the classroom of the sponsoring teacher IIRC. Never was a member myself, though I knew some of them.
 
Mendalla said:
Is IVCF (Inter-varsity Christian Fellowship) still operating? We had a chapter in my high school as a sanctioned extra-curricular group. They met at lunch in the classroom of the sponsoring teacher IIRC. Never was a member myself, though I knew some of them.
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InterVarsity is still going. Have never heard of it taking place in a high school before. Power to Change is also operating on university campuses - not sure whether or not they're also in high schools.
 
Once again - pathetically weak Western Christians who think everybody's out to get them. Boo Hoo

In some circles of institutional desire they are know as psycho ... an incurable rock hard form? Consider the earth railing and wailing through deep space ...
 
This:

"he was authentic" and "he was doing his work to glorify Christ, and not to enrich or glorify himself."
 
Nicely put. I never had the experience of his association crusades like you did but I vaguely recall them coming through Kitchener at least once in my youth. I think the real difference between him and the later evangelists was quite simply "integrity". He was always very clearly in it for Christ. That I don't share his faith doesn't mean I can't respect him for that.
 
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