Resurrection: Does Your Minister/Church Preach What You Believe?

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blackbelt1961 said:
are you saying that the entirety of the bible , all 66 books are all myth?
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I hope not, because it is not all myth. One of the great things about The Bible is that it is an anthology of mixed media. Some books are history, albeit likely mythologized history. Some are poetry. Some are philosophy (esp. Ecclesiastes). Some are theology/religious teaching (e.g. Paul's letters). It is definitely not all myth, but there is definitely some mythology in there (a lot of Genesis, for instance).
 
Mendalla said:
I hope not, because it is not all myth. One of the great things about The Bible is that it is an anthology of mixed media. Some books are history, albeit likely mythologized history. Some are poetry. Some are philosophy (esp. Ecclesiastes). Some are theology/religious teaching (e.g. Paul's letters). It is definitely not all myth, but there is definitely some mythology in there (a lot of Genesis, for instance).
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How about the stories about brighter lighter angels leading men astray so they had follies and fell to the dirt? Now known as mire ... or earth ... silhouettes and sobriquets could be scratched there ... a devil of an act being the fathers of the church didn't wish the common people literate ... thus Jesus may have had the nickname f(rogue) just to support cyber links ...
 
blackbelt1961 said:
are you saying that the entirety of the bible , all 66 books are all myth?
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No, not entirely. The story of Christ is new and represents the next great step in a long line of revelations for Humanity. The story of Christ stands on the shoulders of our past. In order to truly understand the story of Christ we need to understand our past.
 
Neo said:
No, not entirely. The story of Christ is new and represents the next great step in a long line of revelations for Humanity. The story of Christ stands on the shoulders of our past. In order to truly understand the story of Christ we need to understand our past.
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so then the bible is Not entirely based on myth
 
Mendalla -----your quote -------but there is definitely some mythology in there (a lot of Genesis, for instance).

And who told you Mendalla that some of Genesis was based on mythology -------certainly not God seeing how God says His word Is the Truth and God inspired -----and why wouldn't you think all of Genesis would be based of mythology ----what parts are not based on mythology and what parts are based on mythology in your view ------
 
airclean33 said:
--Hi Neo--
This Neo show's you, just do not understand". (You post)--God's Word is subjective to interpretation. Subjective to interpretation by who you? I think not" , as I don't believe you are full of GODS Holy Spirit". I understand that is the only way to properly understand what GOD ,is saying". (Your post)-- especially considering the Bible itself is based on myth.
Do you believe this,because you can't understand? Or can you show why you believe this.
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It's subject to interpretation by you, by me, by the clergy, by everyone. Interpretation is what creates dogma and doctrine, especially those which change in time.

Our awareness is directly purportional to our understanding. Being "full of the Holy Spirit" is another term for spiritual understanding. You can judge me all you want, claiming I have no spiritual understanding, I fortunately don't have to answer to you.
 
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airclean33 said:
--Hi Neo--
This Neo show's you, just do not understand". (You post)--God's Word is subjective to interpretation. Subjective to interpretation by who you? I think not" , as I don't believe you are full of GODS Holy Spirit". I understand that is the only way to properly understand what GOD ,is saying". (Your post)-- especially considering the Bible itself is based on myth.
Do you believe this,because you can't understand? Or can you show why you believe this.
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A good example of this can be seen by those who read the Bible, 100% of it, to its literal interpretation, verses those who see analogy and symbolism on almost ever page.
 
The word "myth" does not always mean "a widely held but false belief or idea".

It can also mean this:
  1. a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
    synonyms: folk tale, folk story, legend, tale, story, fable, saga, mythos, lore, folklore, mythology
    "ancient Greek myths"
 
unsafe said:
Mendalla -----your quote -------but there is definitely some mythology in there (a lot of Genesis, for instance).

And who told you Mendalla that some of Genesis was based on mythology -------certainly not God seeing how God says His word Is the Truth and God inspired -----and why wouldn't you think all of Genesis would be based of mythology ----what parts are not based on mythology and what parts are based on mythology in your view ------
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Try reading other Creation myths from the region some time. It's quite enlightening. Also, read the Sumerian flood myth and compare to the Noah story. Mythology, as Neo says, is truth. It is not literal truth, it is often couched in symbolic language, but it is truth. So Genesis can be myth and still be truth.
 
Neo said:
It's subject to interpretation by you, by me, by the clergy, by everyone. Interpretation is what creates dogma and doctrine, especially those which change in time.

Our awareness is directly purportional to our understanding. Being "full of the Holy Spirit" is another term for spiritual understanding. You can judge me all you want, claiming I have no spiritual understanding, I fortunately don't have to answer to you.
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--Hi Neo--
First it is true you and I have different thoughts on how GODS Word lead us. Yours from without , Mine from with in". As you may have noted , I am not highly educated, yet I fully understand what is being said . Also in many case's more than most can understand". I am not trying to say I am smarter, than anyone else. Why is that," I seem to understand GODS Word". Until GOD touch "me, I really knew nothing about The Word". I also believe I know because GOD is my Teacher" . The Holy Spirit" , is also a part of GOD The Father" . I can give you the Word to show I can Judge, you." But I am not here to Judge , Neo. I am here to try an show The Way to Life. , that being, YahShua The Christ." My Father has given you the right to make a choice. Not only I know this though , so dose evil". It will try and trick you to go the wrong way. Chose Wisely.
 
Mendalla said:
Try reading other Creation myths from the region some time. It's quite enlightening. Also, read the Sumerian flood myth and compare to the Noah story. Mythology, as Neo says, is truth. It is not literal truth, it is often couched in symbolic language, but it is truth. So Genesis can be myth and still be truth.
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Hi--Mendalla----
I read some of that which you posted. It did give me a Laugh, thanks."
 
Mendalla said:
Mythology, as Neo says, is truth. It is not literal truth, it is often couched in symbolic language, but it is truth. So Genesis can be myth and still be truth.
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My problem with what you're saying, is that the word "truth" becomes something other than "a thing that actually verifiably happened."

Just because you have a story with morals and timeless lessons, does not mean you have "truth". Just because you have a story you have a lot personally invested in, does not mean you have "truth". Truth should mean more than that. There are other ways to describe stories or ideas that are meaningful, or personal, or timeless. Expanding the definition of "truth" does no favous to the things we know are true - for which we have evidence based reasons to say they are true.
 
Mendalla said:
I hope not, because it is not all myth. One of the great things about The Bible is that it is an anthology of mixed media. Some books are history, albeit likely mythologized history. Some are poetry. Some are philosophy (esp. Ecclesiastes). Some are theology/religious teaching (e.g. Paul's letters). It is definitely not all myth, but there is definitely some mythology in there (a lot of Genesis, for instance).
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Do you know how many people were living at the time of the Flood? How much land mass did they take up? Also where?
 
airclean33 said:
--Hi Neo--
First it is true you and I have different thoughts on how GODS Word lead us. Yours from without , Mine from with in". As you may have noted , I am not highly educated, yet I fully understand what is being said . Also in many case's more than most can understand". I am not trying to say I am smarter, than anyone else. Why is that," I seem to understand GODS Word". Until GOD touch "me, I really knew nothing about The Word". I also believe I know because GOD is my Teacher" . The Holy Spirit" , is also a part of GOD The Father" . I can give you the Word to show I can Judge, you." But I am not here to Judge , Neo. I am here to try an show The Way to Life. , that being, YahShua The Christ." My Father has given you the right to make a choice. Not only I know this though , so dose evil". It will try and trick you to go the wrong way. Chose Wisely.
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Mine too is from within Airclean. And this is on track with the original post, what we believe inside is more important than what a minister or a church preaches. I'm not saying that we shouldn't listen to those who preach, but in the end the Soul is the first teacher.

Great Teachers like the Christ speak to the Soul level, so we should therefore be in tune with our inner Selves first if we are to truly follow someone like the Christ. This is why He said "the Kingdom of God is within", where the Kingdom of God is likened to the Kingdom of Souls.
 
Does anyone know if some of the early Christians thought that Jesus demonstrated reincarnation over resurrection?
 
There are a range of people so determinate about unknowns that it causes complexity that they would sacrifice for simony!

Thus the peddling of admonitions .. thus we allow them to indulge them selves ... and suffer internal wrinkles ... rifts on the brain ... rumour is some have dispensed with 'M due to faith in no requirement to process observational matter as insubstantial ... metaphysics? The essence of brain as sol thus expands as singularity ... quite gathered in its alien self ...

Individuals of extreme determinacy don't integrate well ... psycho theory (I.E. metaphysics)! This may be the very edge of psychosis as a catty way of escape ... the variants at extreme simulating confrontational politic 'n!

Occurs at church but mostly ignored ... thus unknowing process ... blackout? Tis a diurnal item ... roundish?
 
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