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Should we reconsider the concepts of heresy vs treason?

Tis a thin line in the realm of BS and reason ... like the surface of the cesspool once created by powerful dump*lings ...

Backing off the opinion into distant observation ... one sees a smoky reflection ... quite clouded by greatest degrees of will?

You did know there's a gas off the X*Toll that's explosive ... my step grandfather called it damp-black ... a metaphor for something else again ...

Metaphors are sometimes incarnated as they Lie there ... they come in layers once initiated ... a'đ M spot to be in ... cursed? Reverses position in the dark with Eve ... coming on to find a bette 'r copy to fill de void there ...
 
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Redbaron said:
For starters, yes, the 9 million children. Then the nations like Haiti, and several African nations he blatently insulted yesterday. And obstruction of justice. And probable treasonous activity. And money laundering (likely the least serious thing he's done).

His 2020 re-election slogan? 'Make Leavenworth Great Again!'
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Thing is - he arguably has done many wrongful things. However, it has yet to be proven that he ever broke the law to the degree to which he should go to prison.
 
Jae said:
So... Trump says he takes advantage of women - and that makes him utterly horrid, while Franken is accused of taking advantage of women - and he's to be redeemed. Interesting take. Yep, no political bias being seen there. :rolleyes:
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Jae said:
Trump owned up to what he had engaged in - locker room talk.
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Jae said:
Yeah, let's replace him with the greenphlegmthrowerupper.
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Jae said:
He can goooooooooo back to The Apprentice. Used to like watching him on that.
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Which of these are questions?
 
I don't know, Mendalla. The 9 million children? Maybe it's not illegal, but maybe it should be. Some of those kids will die for lack of medical care. How can people sleep at night after voting for a bill that takes health care away from the poorest children and uses the dollars to fund tax breaks for millionaires?
 
Mendalla said:
Policy changes and inflammatory rhetoric are not high crimes and misdemeanors (or whatever the wording is), bad as they may be. For him to end up impeached and in Leavenworth, it would require something like the alleged collusion with Russia reaching treason levels.

Those are good reasons for voters to turf him, but are hardly criminal or impeachable.
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Mendalla, anything's impeachable if Congress chooses to impeach. Impeachment is a political and not a judicial process - which is why it was given to Congress to lay charges and hold trials, and not to the Supreme Court. It was why "other high crimes and misdemeanours" was left purposely vague by the authors of the Constitution.

Having said that - I think the odds of Trump being impeached and removed from office are very long. Impeachment is a possibility (especially if the Democrats take control of the House next year) but conviction is hard to see happening. It takes two thirds of the Senate to convict. The Democrats can't get anywhere near two thirds of the Senate even if they win every Senate race next year, because there just aren't enough Republican Senate seats to switch, and so a significant number of Republicans would have to be convinced that it's to their advantage to remove him. Not gonna happen.
 
revsdd said:
Mendalla, anything's impeachable if Congress chooses to impeach. Impeachment is a political and not a judicial process - which is why it was given to Congress to lay charges and hold trials, and not to the Supreme Court. It was why "other high crimes and misdemeanours" was left purposely vague by the authors of the Constitution.
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Fair enough, but I still suggest that impeaching someone because you don't like their policies seems like petty politics taken to the n'th degree. But if the framers worded it that way, then go for it. However, an impeached President still won't be put in Leavenworth as RB suggested. There would still have to be a crime involved for that to happen.
 
Trump's contempt for the 'lesser breeds' has been a characteristic for the rulers of every imperial power I have ever heard of. It's been characteristic of the British upper class for centuries. It has been characteristic of almost every president of the United States. Remember the slaughter of native peoples. Just look at what is going on in Latin America.
Canadians have had contempt for many of our waves of immigration - Chinese, Irish, Jewish. Indian, Ukrainian, Japanese....
 
I am tired of hearing about Jae's thesis.

Being an embarrassment to your country and the world is not a crime.

Being a liar (Except in a courtroom) is not a crime.

But, IMHO , uprooting the Dreamers, after they have lived in the US all of their

lives is a crime. It would be like sending every Korean who has been born in Canada back

to Korea or every Quebecer back to France because a Prime Minister decides that is what

he wants to do. It would never happen here in Canada, would it?

One man does not a government make in a democracy. Maybe the US is no longer

a democracy. When are they going to wake up.?
 
I'll tell you, "Land of the Free" is a serious misnomer these days. Between their Border Patrol, their militarized police forces and their for-profit Prison system, it's a very controlled world.
 
In all of this, remember that Trump's policies are essentially those of Bush and Obama. indeed, almost all American presidents since 1945 have followed similar courses. Trump is ignorant, coarse, perhaps mentally ill - but his policies do not represent any change.
Trump, foul as he may be, is not the problem.
 
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