TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

[Luce NDs]

This is what happens when you filter Breitbart through blackbelt and drizzle it on a forum.

That's dew'd Aum ...

Some would blow it through the pipes and get on some where's else ... so much to gather and so little time ... all I've got is this spot ... that rabid urge to rest ... wait demi urgent stop .. thus the doter Eire? This should raise a deceit price for brig h' eting the gap ... and the initial profession was conjured with a vestal thing ... that with a'vile ... or vessel interned ... out of sight in-thought! In-sight bared ... tis rye as thought ... for real folks don't wish to see it ... a dippy item as Dunkan ... sublime conjurers of th' aught ... a singular Eire? Monad ... no straight liners ... after that proposition we're screwed on concepts of diurnal Dei ... omega 'd it comes in tu halves ... sibling satyrs?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Who was that interviewer flattering him and practically begging him to run for president?

 

[Luce NDs]

Who was that interviewer flattering him and practically begging him to run for president?

Ide "M's abound ... usually bouncing like good Marai ... they transcend the present and are gone Eve 'n Tullee ... Deis pas ecce also ...

 

[Ritafee]

Facts are neither nice nor not nice. They're simply facts.

Is it a fact that stock gains are not reducing the ever-growing international debt?

 

[Jaebius]

Is it a fact that stock gains are not reducing the ever-growing international debt?

It's a trap!

 

[revsdd]

Is it a fact that stock gains are not reducing the ever-growing international debt?

Can't say that for sure because that would require me to be familiar with the fiscal situation of every jurisdiction in the world, but I would say that this is probably a fact, yes.

Stock market gains would have little to do with reducing debt or even necessarily with expanding the economy. What they do mean is that the rich are getting richer.

 

[Mendalla]

Stock market gains would have little to do with reducing debt or even necessarily with expanding the economy. What they do mean is that the rich are getting richer.

So that you could just eliminate all national deficits and debts by taxing the hell out of them, right?

No, I don't believe it, but it's the argument some segments would make.

 

[Ritafee]

I admit that I cannot follow the logic behind the bigger the debt the better the economy ... I keep trying to understand it but it just does not make sense to me . Below from an article (that I will post the link to) that I have just read ... can anyone enlighten me on what this means . Does it mean anything at all?

• So although both parties have postured and issued threats about shutting down the federal government in lieu of a deal on spending for the current fiscal year, it’s unlikely (especially right before Christmas) unless stupidity breaks out. Unfortunately, stupidity may indeed be breaking out in its traditional stomping ground, the House GOP Caucus, where Speaker Paul Ryan is toying with a too-clever-by-half strategy of passing a spending bill that only a House Republican could love, and then adjourning for the year, leaving the Senate with the unsavory choice of accepting the bill or shutting down the government three days before Christmas (when the last stopgap spending bill expires).

House GOP May Skip Town and Cause a Pre-Christmas Government Shutdown

 

[Graeme Decarie]

The bottom line is that I can see nothing of Christian principle in the policies, foreign and domestic, pursued by almost all presidents since 1945 (and earlier). In fact, they have more often been destructive of any Christian principles. Not surprisingly, ardent church-goers seem to be among the most enthusiastic supporters of war and racism. And similar behaviour have been noticeably in every nominally Christian country I have heard of over the last 2,000 years.

Doesn't this suggest a profound failure of Christianity?

 

[Jaebius]

The bottom line is that I can see nothing of Christian principle in the policies, foreign and domestic, pursued by almost all presidents since 1945 (and earlier). In fact, they have more often been destructive of any Christian principles. Not surprisingly, ardent church-goers seem to be among the most enthusiastic supporters of war and racism. And similar behaviour have been noticeably in every nominally Christian country I have heard of over the last 2,000 years.

Doesn't this suggest a profound failure of Christianity?

If true, what it suggests is a profound failure of many who call themselves Christians to truly follow Christ's way.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

Well, of course it's a failure of Christians. And Christians are Christianity. You cannot separate the two.

 

[revsdd]

I admit that I cannot follow the logic behind the bigger the debt the better the economy ... I keep trying to understand it but it just does not make sense to me .

Not sure how that works with governments. I do know that there's a general belief that if the economy is good, people tend to be more willing to go into debt in the belief that they'll be able to pay off the debt. So if people believe the economy is good, then people will spend even more by going into debt and the spending tends to stimulate the economy, etc. It sounds rather unsustainable to me because it increases people's debt burden

As for governments, they regularly spend supposedly to stimulate the economy. Years ago the theory tended to be for the government to tighten its belt during good times and loosen it during bad times to try to get back to good times. Now, they just tend to spend - good times or bad times.

 

[Luce NDs]

The bottom line is that I can see nothing of Christian principle in the policies, foreign and domestic, pursued by almost all presidents since 1945 (and earlier). In fact, they have more often been destructive of any Christian principles. Not surprisingly, ardent church-goers seem to be among the most enthusiastic supporters of war and racism. And similar behaviour have been noticeably in every nominally Christian country I have heard of over the last 2,000 years.

Doesn't this suggest a profound failure of Christianity?

Thus apologetic Christianity in the paradigm ... a misnomer by far! "T" wasn't going to happen ... as IT (condensed) passes over unnoted ... and the people were stunned!

 

[chansen]

If true, what it suggests is a profound failure of many who call themselves Christians to truly follow Christ's way.

Well, of course it's a failure of Christians. And Christians are Christianity. You cannot separate the two.

Put another way, if I created some sort of guide, or course, that resulted in a designation (say, "Christian"), and those who were now Christians screwed up and failed to come close to the ideals they were supposed to uphold, so often, I would be fired, the text would be re-written, and someone else would have to try all over again.

With Christianity, it's "Oops, we fell short! Well, that's Christianity for you, we always fall short. Let's keep the same text and try again."

The old "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried" excuse makes it out to be a problem of never truly attempting. If that's the case, then maybe after 2000 years you recognize that something is wrong in the design.

If this were simple iterative design, imagine how much better the bible could be by now. Imagine how much more effective Christianity could be. But the canon is closed. Why? Because the canon says it's closed. And because of that, Christianity is f***ed in the long term.

 

[Luce NDs]

I admit that I cannot follow the logic behind the bigger the debt the better the economy ... I keep trying to understand it but it just does not make sense to me . Below from an article (that I will post the link to) that I have just read ... can anyone enlighten me on what this means . Does it mean anything at all?

• So although both parties have postured and issued threats about shutting down the federal government in lieu of a deal on spending for the current fiscal year, it’s unlikely (especially right before Christmas) unless stupidity breaks out. Unfortunately, stupidity may indeed be breaking out in its traditional stomping ground, the House GOP Caucus, where Speaker Paul Ryan is toying with a too-clever-by-half strategy of passing a spending bill that only a House Republican could love, and then adjourning for the year, leaving the Senate with the unsavory choice of accepting the bill or shutting down the government three days before Christmas (when the last stopgap spending bill expires).

House GOP May Skip Town and Cause a Pre-Christmas Government Shutdown

However if you repeat the same thing to emotional crowds will thye begin to believe the lie is the virtue?

I started working on that as a foundation for myths! It seems to work for the reciprocal side of soul ... tis upended ... kind like Canon and real reflections ... kinda unreal or complex in #'s?

 

[Luce NDs]

Put another way, if I created some sort of guide, or course, that resulted in a designation (say, "Christian"), and those who were now Christians screwed up and failed to come close to the ideals they were supposed to uphold, so often, I would be fired, the text would be re-written, and someone else would have to try all over again.

With Christianity, it's "Oops, we fell short! Well, that's Christianity for you, we always fall short. Let's keep the same text and try again."

The old "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried" excuse makes it out to be a problem of never truly attempting. If that's the case, then maybe after 2000 years you recognize that something is wrong in the design.

If this were simple iterative design, imagine how much better the bible could be by now. Imagine how much more effective Christianity could be. But the canon is closed. Why? Because the canon says it's closed. And because of that, Christianity is f***ed in the long term.

But it does have a nice face ... as Dante projected ... there is an inner side ... deeper! Superficial sorts ... do they exist on the other side?

 

[Jaebius]

Well, of course it's a failure of Christians. And Christians are Christianity. You cannot separate the two.

Ah, but Christianity and Christians are not perfect in following the way of Christ. In other words, how Christ wants us to live is perfect. We too often fail to live his life of unconditional love for all.

 

[Luce NDs]

Li

Ah, but Christianity and Christians are not perfect in following the way of Christ. In other words, how Christ wants us to live is perfect. We too often fail to live his life of unconditional love for all.

Live and learn in the light ... Levite ah?

 

[Ritafee]

"The permanent lie is not circumscribed by reality ....

• It is perpetuated even in the face of overwhelming evidence that discredits it. It is irrational. Those who speak in the language of truth and fact are attacked as liars, traitors and purveyors of “fake news.” They are banished from the public sphere once totalitarian elites accrue sufficient power, a power now granted to them with the revoking of net neutrality. The iron refusal by those who engage in the permanent lie to acknowledge reality, no matter how transparent reality becomes, creates a collective psychosis.

• “The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth and truth be defamed as a lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world—and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end—is being destroyed,” Hannah Arendt wrote in “The Origins of Totalitarianism.”

• The permanent lie is the apotheosis of totalitarianism. It no longer matters what is true. It matters only what is “correct.” Federal courts are being stacked with imbecilic and incompetent judges who serve the “correct” ideology of corporatism and the rigid social mores of the Christian right.

• They hold reality, including science and the rule of law, in contempt. They seek to banish those who live in a reality-based world defined by intellectual and moral autonomy. Totalitarian rule always elevates the brutal and the stupid. These reigning idiots have no genuine political philosophy or goals. They use clichés and slogans, most of which are absurd and contradictory, to justify their greed and lust for power.

• This is as true on the Christian right, which is filling the ideological vacuum of the Trump administration, as it is for the corporatists that preach neoliberalism and globalization.

The merger of the corporatists with the Christian right is the marrying of Godzilla to Frankenstein." - Chris Hedges


The Permanent Lie, Our Deadliest Threat

 

[Graeme Decarie]

to JAE - so very true and logically, therefore, Hitler was simply an imperfect Christian.