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Northwind said:
No, I'm not going to play that game. You are the guy taking the scriptures literally, at least some of them. Don't worry though, I'm not expecting an honest answer from you.
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If you're not going to provide Scriptures that tell us that we should own slaves, and that men should have multiple wives, that's fine. However, I'm going to concern myself with trying to find such Scriptures, as I don't believe such Scriptures exist.

*chuckle* "game" :rolleyes:
 
Jae said:
If you're not going to provide Scriptures that tell us that we should own slaves, and that men should have multiple wives, that's fine. However, I'm going to concern myself with trying to find such Scriptures, as I don't believe such Scriptures exist.

*chuckle* "game" :rolleyes:
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Have at 'er.....
 
Hi,
Jae said:
That relationship is possible through saving faith in King Jesus.
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An itinerant rabbi with no place to lay his head meets diverse persons along the way. Lepers, beggars, prostitutes, Samaritans, and others. Each of these persons is delivered from the judgement of the scriptures enforced by religious persons in positions of power. They were graciously included in the love of God by the word and deed of that rabbi.

Not everyone accepted that the grace of God was sufficient for the salvation (healing/restoration). Some insisted that allegiance and conformity to religious precept and practice were necessary to inclusion in the love of God. These first ignored, then resisted, and finally resorted to murder in order to silence the rabbi.

On the cross we see the itinerant rabbi pronounce a word of forgiveness in the hearing of his murderers; religious authorities in collusion with imperial powers.

My restoration to the way of God is rooted in my experience with the testimony of those who intimately knew and loved this suffering servant of God. The God whose sovereignty is contradicted by the way of power and revealed in the way of love.

You are free to worship Jesus as king. My preference is to walk with Jesus in the way of intimate companionship.

With appreciation for your provocation to thought along these lines.

George
 
GeoFee said:

You are free to worship Jesus as king. My preference is to walk with Jesus in the way of intimate companionship.
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Sorry GeoFee. However, I do not accept that dichotomy. I both worship Jesus as King and journey with him in intimate friendship. Why do you imagine that doing so is not possible? It is a reality in my life, and in the lives of countless others.
 
Jae said:
Sorry GeoFee. However, I do not accept that dichotomy. I both worship Jesus as King and journey with him in intimate friendship. Why do you imagine that doing so is not possible? It is a reality in my life, and in the lives of countless others.
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I cannot envision an intimate human relationship which has as its foundation an element of 'worship' or monarchy.
 
Jae said:
Sorry GeoFee. However, I do not accept that dichotomy. I both worship Jesus as King and journey with him in intimate friendship. Why do you imagine that doing so is not possible? It is a reality in my life, and in the lives of countless others.
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And there was some quote about forgiving those that know not ... and the problem occurring when the lights went out in GEO Gaia ... that down to earth place at night time ... when thye loose cognizance ... de Dai departed ... allowing for reorganization in the shadowed domain ... dark unseen mental activity as in dreams, aspiriations ... ink'n, b' Lincoln, etc.
 
Is worship a possession or just possessing activity for those not wandering ? Ripe for some religious exorcism?

The stuff we don't know about what the uprighteous have dude ... Ka Ka ... the dual spirit of what's befallen from on high crappy metaphors or chitty satyrs ... eM things po' lyre etude than you'd imagine ... most satire are skimmed ... as shallow ...
 
"When the Son of Man (human being) comes, will He find faith on the earth?”

Hi,
Jae said:
Why do you imagine that doing so is not possible? It is a reality in my life, and in the lives of countless others.
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I do not imagine that it is not possible. I am aware the the image of Jesus as king holds great appeal for many. This in the face of those powers and principalities by which the earth and it's peoples are being exploited and oppressed. There is a growing longing for Jesus to appear as a conquering hero.

I am well aware of our present dilemma but place no hope in the appearing of a conquering hero. With Jesus my hope is in human beings awakened by the free creative spirit of God. That awakened human being will make manifest the 'risen' life of Jesus. Each awakened person will make manifest some gift of the Holy Spirit to bless the earth and it's peoples.

These persons will stand only in the solidarity of love. This human movement will make present the body of Christ to resist the dark powers seeking to dominate the earth and it's peoples in the name of politics blessed by religion.

We are now noticing the rise of the Christian Right in collusion with the prevailing political power; the billionaires pulling Trump's strings to establish the corporate state; in the name of King Jesus.

Joel speaks of multitudes in the valley of decision. The promise of security guaranteed by supernatural power will attract many. Those who turn to embrace human solidarity in the hope of justice, without which there can be no peace, will face persecution and death. Something Jesus made plain for those who chose to follow in his way. The way of a crucified body and a resurrected spirit.

George

 
Peculiar comment" "Lord forgive them for they know not what they do"!

What of those that know better and do as they will anyhow?

Had a grand discussion over breakfast with a renegade minister over the question of the demonizing of the pigs ... creatures that such up buried intelligence like truffles ... fun guise, fungus ... misspelt? Scratched out on parchments as de light! Shadowing source of learning ...

What a feast these critters share ...

Yet the patriarchy say we shouldn't know ... and thus wisdom is commonly hidden about how humans abuse humans ... ourselves without assistance --- Pogo?
 
Jae said:
Can a king not have friends then?
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They could, but it's not how kings have ever worked in history until maybe today (William seems like a pretty laidback guy you could have a pint with and he will be king someday). Kings have traditionally stood apart from the masses and looked down on them. They wouldn't deign to have friends outside their own class and even within their class, most relationships were very formal and protocol-driven. For instance, they rarely married for love, but to cement alliances and ensure a suitable heir (which is why the English monarchs and heirs up until Prince Charles had to marry a blueblood; Kate was raised a middle class commoner so marks a break with that tradition). And that's how kings definitely worked in Jesus time. Herod may have had friends, but they would have been either Romans or upper class Jews. Perhaps a trusted servant or something like that, but definitely no hoi-polloi riff-raff off the streets like us. So King Jesus might have a friendly relationship with someone like the Pope but wouldn't be seen in public with the likes of you and me.

UNLESS, the goal was to redefine kingship. However, it appears that kings, including religious ones, failed to get that memo if that was the intent.
 
Then there was the Legend of the demonizing of the pigs ... ad hoch? A myth about being weaker animals due to the Achilles thing ... mindfulness and great consumptive power thereof as said to be evil learning?

A philosophical failure? Philosophy being the love (god) of knowledge and wisdom ... somewhere having been corrupted ... by great wills?

Accept it as just'a story ...
 
One of things I really liked about that series The Tudors was how it portrayed Henry XIII's struggle with human intimacy, both vis-a-vis his wives, but also his staff/advisors.
 
BetteTheRed said:
One of things I really liked about that series The Tudors was how it portrayed Henry XIII's struggle with human intimacy, both vis-a-vis his wives, but also his staff/advisors.
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On separation ... with a wee bit of research most people see that King Henry VIII was something other than observant of the Golden Rule and adhered to the bloody queen rule ... i.e. off with her head ... and women going there hadn't a Q' loo ...

Nothing sticks to your mind like metaphors in history ... actually quite satirical recording ...
 
Jae said:
If you're not going to provide Scriptures that tell us that we should own slaves, and that men should have multiple wives, that's fine. However, I'm going to concern myself with trying to find such Scriptures, as I don't believe such Scriptures exist.

*chuckle* "game" :rolleyes:
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There's a story about a runner, who took on his rival in a 100 meter dash, 2 runners, head to head. The other guy won the race. When later asked by a friend how it turned out, the runner replied proudly, "I came in second. He came in next-to-last." Somehow when I read "responses" like the quote above, that story comes to mind.
 
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