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Okay. But Breitbart, Fox, and the National Enquirer (which Trump endorsed) and the New York Observer owned by Trump's son in law are not unbiased credible news sources. Alex Jones is not a credible news source. Calling the mainstream media a bunch of liars then coming out with outlandish and sometimes vile spin of their own or carrying the same banner, the same spin, repeating the same junk on their behalf,does not make someone(s) credible. It doesn't make Hannity credible, for example. And the kind of garbage Fox spins has been mainstreamed. Trump used Hannity to look like a real journalist and a real political analyst and he is not. Outlets such as those I just mentioned are the outlets on the right manipulating minds and those are what are being called "fake news". What they are is also manipulative misinformation. The actual "fake news" is comedy that informs people that it is comedy - but it is comedy that makes you think, ask questions, while making you laugh. Which reminds me - Glenn Beck will be on Samantha Bee tomorrow. And it's actually a semi-serious interview. Some serious questions and a sense of humour.I'm looking forward to it. I also have some respect for Fox journalist Shep Smith - who I only know of because of Stephen Colbert. He is trying to hold news sources accountable, even his own network, and report the news. He also happens to have a good sense of humour.
 
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There's bias, and then there's lying. When there is lying, you have to look at who the lie serves.

If Trump becomes president, there are going to be a lot of things you believe being called into question.

Keep an open mind.
 
Yes. I will. But I do not trust a magazine owned by Trump's family to be honest - bias on that level opens itself to dishonesty. It's pretty near totalitarian. I do not want to see a witch-hunt against Obama or Hillary. That stuff is lies. The "lock her up" crap is based on gross exaggerations of the mistakes she made. She could've made a good president, if she were forgiven - like Bernie did. He forgave. Obama is in part responsible for Syria. So are his advisors. However, I do not believe he ever wanted all the bloodshed that has happened there. Putin is also responsible. He dug his heels in and backed Assad regardless of what it would take - and many people died because of that, too. Assad is not a good guy either.

There are people who end up doing the wrong thing, but for the right reasons. Then there is also just plain doing wrong.
 
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Is the human psyche responsible ... or irresponsible if infected with blind love that tends to cloud the sol?

Is that Kohl, just Cana' nin Ba'aL'd ... Sam's offshoot? It may leave a void when passing through ...

Bull's an Can Ana's are like that ... they do leave a mark unless you see the wisdom in the deeps. Like Charles Dicken's said about the formal Christmas" "take it as a grain of salt"!

Where one grain forms ... there is sure to be co precipitation ... a crystalline storm? Is the grail salty? Once you kiss the rim you could be in trouble ... like cattle at a salt lick ... later a gathering of truth once the emotional part wanders of as a dark gravid wave ...
 
Is blackness like an occult thing needing etudes? Consider the Holy Night Syndrome ... have your Standfield's pinks on ... unless you have a decent ABBA'd warmer ... OMEGA did I sae that in Greek ... about forms of booty? V' Nous ... a'bo oti full mind ... out there?

That's beyond us rite? Something to be encountered ... yet - I! In the foot isles this may be Blackfoot as the Shadow of UNE-conscience! Something to gather about ...
 
Well folks, it's official. The Electoral College has made Donald J. Trump the President of the United States of America.
 
If they didn't, it would be carnage. Everyone thought the Republican party was in chaos. It is. No one realized how bad the Democratic party was as well. They pushed an unpopular candidate, and yes, the well was poisoned for her from the get-go, but she also isn't interesting. Donald Trump engaged with enough voters in the right states to win. The Russians helped with the fake news stories, and conservatives lapped up the fake news because they wanted to believe it. It used to be that a lie could make it halfway 'round the world before the truth could get its pants on in the morning, but now it can make it around the world twice, beat up the truth, and take its lunch money.

Democrats have to appeal to more than just city dwellers. Republicans have convinced poor rural areas to vote against their own self-interests by appealing to religion and folksy charm. Donald Trump also made them believe he is some sort of financial/business guru, when he isn't. Democrats did a terrible job of repudiating Trump. Republicans did a terrible job of repudiating Trump. Now they're here. Now they're staring down the barrel of 4 years of an unstable, bigoted, conflict-of-interest machine who is literally an Internet troll, as their president. Hey, maybe instability works in business, but something tells me you want a steady hand at the wheel of government. If I thought Trump was mostly an act, that would make me feel better. I don't have any reason to believe that. He's been doing this for too long.
 
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Well folks, it's official. The Electoral College has made Donald J. Trump the President of the United States of America.
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Actually, according to the most current count I can find the vote is currently 55-27 for Trump. How they know this for sure I don't know. My understanding of the mechanics of the electoral college is that once the electors in each state convene, they vote and then fill out 6 certificates with their votes that are sealed and go to various officials. The most important goes to the President of the Senate (currently Joe Biden). Then in January there's a Joint Session of Congress at which the electoral votes are actually counted. That's the point at which it's made 100% official.

From the 12th Amendment to the United States Constitution:
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;—The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
 
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I hope you posted that as a joke.
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No I didn't. And maybe they'd write a similar story about Clinton if it was her turn on Jan 20th but it isn't. It is Trump's. And he has so many conflicts of interest himself, as does his cabinet - so many the U.S.is going to look like a tin pot dictatorship - it should disqualify him. But it won't.

What is it about Trump's lack of ethics and his manipulation of the truth the way he wants it that is okay with you but makes Hillary so evil? 17 intelligence agencies think Russia interfered with the election and Trump had to have known but you're fine with it? All of a sudden they are all lying - but not if they had something on 'her'. I'm pretty sure you'd believe the dirt on 'her'.
 
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I have watched Madam Secretary for a couple of years. I know much is added

or taken away to make it more interesting. But last night I shuddered to see

Trump in the president's shoes.
 
Everybody's gotta get a grip. Like him or not - Trump is going to be president. The electors are not going to go against the votes of the people who elected them. Well, a few might (I've heard one Clinton elector in Maine is going to vote for Sanders, and there have been stories that a handful of Trump electors might vote for someone else) but it won't be in great enough numbers to deny Trump the White House.
 
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Everybody's gotta get a grip. Like him or not - Trump is going to be president. The electors are not going to go against the votes of the people who elected them. Well, a few might (I've heard one Clinton elector in Maine is going to vote for Sanders, and there have been stories that a handful of Trump electors might vote for someone else) but it won't be in great enough numbers to deny Trump the White House.
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The purpose of the electoral college is supposedly to prevent somebody unfit from getting into office - it's supposed to be a safeguard. But we are living in bizarro world now, so...who knows. Don't be so sure. I'm pretty sure he'll get inaugurated on January 20th, but not 100% sure.

Trump himself, at his last rally - called the electoral college "genius". Was there a hidden message in that? Or was he just complimenting them? Also, he said that even those who didn't vote for him should never give up. They won't.
 
Kimmio said:
The purpose of the electoral college is supposedly to prevent somebody unfit from getting into office - it's supposed to be a safeguard. But we are living in bizarro world now, so...who knows. Don't be so sure. I'm pretty sure he'll get inaugurated on January 20th, but not 100% sure.
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Kimmio, it's original purpose aside, the electoral college is now a rubber stamp. Its purpose is now to have the state by state vote reflected in the election for president. That's why Trump has a 306-232 margin coming out of the election. He won more states and more electoral votes than Clinton. He's going to be president. I am 100% absolutely sure that unless he dies before January 20, he will become president on January 20. If the electoral college were to choose anyone else there would be riots in the streets (and justified ones in my opinion) because that really would be a coup of sorts that overturns the practice of how electors are chosen and how elections are decided that has existed since the early 19th century. Trump won the election according to the rules that everybody agreed to and that have been followed for about 200 years whether his opponents like it or not. He will be the President of the United States.
 
None of this could matter less.
The latest word from Aleppo, which you won't see in your local news meda, is that the defeat of the Jihadists in that city included to surrender of some 100 special forces units from our side - U.S., Britain, France, Germany, Saudi....
There are probably more.
They had been advisors on the side of the Jihadists.
In other words, Muslim terrorism is largely financed, trained and equipped by us - and this while the Trumps and the Obamas of this world assure us that terrorists are evil, and a threat we must defeat.
None of the Tump/Clinton stuff matters. The us is ruled by an aristocracy of birth - the sons of the very very wealthy. The politicians are decorative.

You can follow this story going all the way back to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. The US CREATED the Islamist threat.
Where do you think a bunch of the discontented are getting the weapons and supplies and money to fight such wars?
The biggest enemy Americans face (and us) is their ruling aristocracy of big money.
graeme
 
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