TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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The police, in freezing weather, are hosing the protesters down with cold water. They've also used tear gas.
We're going to see much more of that including in this country. I expect Trudeau to follow the lead of Trump.
U.s democracy is over. It was with either Trump or Clinton. Rule is now by an aristocracy of wealth. Conditions in the US and quite possibly in Canada are going to get much worse.
 
Green Day have always been a fairly political band (just listen to American Idiot) so them protesting Trump hardly shocks me.
 
Mendalla said:
Green Day have always been a fairly political band (just listen to American Idiot) so them protesting Trump hardly shocks me.
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American Idiot was during the Bush administration. It was pretty gutsy. I had no idea they made a musical (Green Day wrote it) that went to Broadway. And in December they'll be releasing American Idiot, the movie. Taking punk rock to the masses - because they can?

I wouldn't say it "shocked" me that they did that, but I do think it was brave.
 
not likely.
The one idea that's good is to pull out of the transpacific trade deal. His general idea about improving prosperity and creating jobs is both vague and impossible. Big business in the U.S., including Trump, has no wish to create prosperity. It wants cheap labour, no social services, and no taxes for itself. And his idea to destroy the environment and ignore climate change is a death wish.
Most of what he said is just bluster.
 
Jae said:
News Bette? Dakota Sioux? Haven't heard anything.
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Police with batons, mace, rubber bullets and dogs ordered to silence voices insisting that water means more to human being than money. Even Baptist money!
 
GeoFee said:
Police with batons, mace, rubber bullets and dogs ordered to silence voices insisting that water means more to human being than money. Even Baptist money!
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Why were the police called in and to operate as such? How is the incident directly tied to the President-elect?
 
The president elect, you may have heard, intends to ignore all climate change warnings. That means it will be directly tied to him as soon as he is sworn in. This is the future - your future.
 
Oh - why were the police called in? Well, to make sure no pregnant women tried to use the protest to get abortions. The U.S. needs those babies to grow up and kill Muslims.
 
Well, in fairness, it's not a new norm. It's been standard practice for well over a century. We've seen it here, too. And I expect we're going to see more.
 
Waterfall said:
The United States tends to feel it's okay to break treaties....it's as American(Canadian) as apple pie.
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Yeah, that's hardly new to Trump, though in the past they've tended to try to maneuver through the language in Clinton-esque fashion rather than going the "blunt instrument" route of actually pulling out.
 
If the world lasts long enough, we will understand this period as the hundred year war - even more than that. The war started with the unification of Germany under Bismarck in the 1870s, and it's really been the same war ever since. Its German period brought down the European empires, and opened the way for the American conquest of the world. It's been a long war for economic power - that's been true of every phase of it.
 
Graeme Decarie said:
The police, in freezing weather, are hosing the protesters down with cold water. They've also used tear gas.
We're going to see much more of that including in this country. I expect Trudeau to follow the lead of Trump.
U.s democracy is over. It was with either Trump or Clinton. Rule is now by an aristocracy of wealth. Conditions in the US and quite possibly in Canada are going to get much worse.
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No. I do not think it would've been as terrifying under Clinton. I do not think democracy would've been completely lost under Clinton, but the risk is real with Trump. I think she is the one who has been set up,smeared and reported on unfairly. Trump is like a charicature of oligarchy and we have no idea what to expect from him.

Do you revel in things getting worse, Graeme, or what?
 
Kimmio said:
And you thought it would be the same under Clinton. Looks like the U.S. just elected Nero.
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There are times, when I'm trying to make sense of the election, that I wonder if it isn't God's plan to place the most obnoxious people the Americans could find to win the presidency and expose what really lives in the human heart. It's up front and in our face...., we all point and act disgusted...., but no one gets to be president all by them self.
 
Yes. It would be the same under Clinton. You have missed the point I have been trying to make from the start. This is not about individuals or personalities. It doesn't matter who got elected. America as the land of freedom and equality was always more than a bit of a myth. That America has come crashing down.
Indeed, the U.S. has been pursuing world conquest even before World War Two, and the collapse of the European empires. Way back in the nineteenth century, Hawaii was annexed to become the major naval base of the U.S. Have you never wondered why they chose to build their naval base way out in the middle of the Pacific? That's because it was intended to be used for wars of aggression in Asia - particularly against Chna.
Trump ( and Clinton) have been following the dream of American corporations, a world empire with absolute power in their hands. The difference between Trump and Clinton is style, not substance.
 
Well, you and I had no choice. Most of the world didn't. But Americans did. How half of them made the choice they did boggles my mind. And it upsets me a little that the whole world has to put up with that for at least 4 years.

It may be God's plan to wake people up to the really ugly side of human nature. I believe people missed the opportunity to forgive Clinton - she knew she wasn't a shoe-in after the Bernie phenomenon - and let her govern fairly with the counsel of people like Sanders and Warren.
 
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