Unless you are a republican with the empirical know how to reduce your private taxations! As history ... that is how it goes if the others have been impressed with the theory of phobia about mental process ... in short; not thinking right!
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Unless you are a republican with the empirical know how to reduce your private taxations! As history ... that is how it goes if the others have been impressed with the theory of phobia about mental process ... in short; not thinking right!
They would avoid the entire order? This might later become known as the order of tax avoidance in the edifice ... if you can believe such stuff!
Yet one must believe that corruption lives among us as an enemy ... it is just natural give the corruption said they did it ... just because we can! It can't be helped because of para noia ... and it is anoi ng ...
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The best buds aspect of this story might be quite significant. Did the collectors of the temple tax approach Peter because they knew him to be close to Jesus? Did they know he had a prominent role among the twelve?
The relationship between Peter and Jesus features elsewhere in Matthew's gospel. Here are two more snippets which are unique to Matthew:
In the story of the storm on the sea, Matthew alone has Peter walking on the water. (Matt 14: 28-31)
Matthew is the only gospel writer to have Jesus being given the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Ditto for the statement that Peter is the rock on which Jesus will build his church (Matt 16: 17-19)
In Roman Catholic tradition this interaction made Peter the first Pope..
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That would be my suspicion. Just like the person who approached him after Jesus' arrest recognized him as being with Jesus, leading to the denial story. (Matthew 26:69 and following, Luke 22:54 and following, etc.)
My thought about it being an in-joke was kind of remembering other fish and fisherman imagery, including the "fishers of men" line. With several apostles having that background, maybe talk about fish and fishing was common among the group.
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Yes there are many references to fish, fishing and fishermen in the Bible. And Jesus often taught at the lakeside.
Is it important that Jesus asked Peter to work & use his skillset to recover this particular coin? It might have been a miraculous coin but Peter would need to expend some effort to retrieve it.
The story could also be a statement about Jesus using whatever gifts we have.
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Thanks everybody for your comments on this thread. It's been a good discussion which has (mostly) stayed on topic. This is much appreciated by your thread host.
I have looked up several commentaries on the passage. Some interpretations favor a literal miracle. Many believe it to be foreshadowing of one sort or another. Still others treat it as a parable.
Lots to ponder for a few short verses.
Thanks again. P3
I have looked up several commentaries on the passage. Some interpretations favor a literal miracle. Many believe it to be foreshadowing of one sort or another. Still others treat it as a parable.
Lots to ponder for a few short verses.
Thanks again. P3
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Or Is there ?
God says His Word is Truth ------So according to the Word ---Jesus is the Word who became Flesh and walked on this earth -----
if we believe this to be true then Why wouldn't we believe the scripture about the coin in the fishes mouth and say it actually happened ?-----Temple Tax was in place at that time for real ------
Jesus Is God -----He is omniscient-----He is all knowing ------- He is omnipresent ---He is everywhere at once ---- and He is omnipotent ----Nothing is impossible for God to do ------
So Jesus would have known that a certain Fish would have a coin in its mouth already and had the fish present when Peter cast out his line---- or---He could have place the coin in the fishes mouth at the Time Peter cast out his fishing line ------
The amount of the coin was enough to pay taxes for 2 people ----
So I think your statement here ------
If you look at the Text itself ----it does give a clue that it did actually happen ------in my view
Also Jesus says ----Go to the lake ----and Peter obeyed the command ------and Got the coin and returned to Jesus with the coin ---and then
Jesus told Peter to take it and pay the tax ------so it seems to me it would have actually happened ----
The paying of taxes was a real thing at that time -----and it paid for Jesus and Peter ------
Matthew 17:27, NIV:
But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours.'
If you read this --it seems Jesus doesn't think that He needed to pay tax -as He is the Son of God ---He is the Spiritual King ----but He did so --so no offence was taken =----
The Temple Tax
24 After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax?”25 “Yes, he does,” he replied.
When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak.
“What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own children or from others?”
26 “From others,” Peter answered.
“Then the children are exempt,”
Mendalla
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Yeah, just took a boo at it and there's no explicit statement Peter actually did it (I'm using NRSVUE as usual) and 18 moves on to another conversation. So, did he? The disciples were usually pretty good about doing what Jesus asked so probably? But, yeah, it is definitely implicit rather than stated.