Sociopaths, empaths, and apaths

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This is an interesting article that touches on how to combat the prevalence of sociopathy in our society. It suggests that although apaths tend to bolster sociopathic behaviour by siding with sociopaths - or doing nothing - if they took on the role of supporting and encouraging empaths this would tip the balance in the other direction. It brings to my mind the new phrase "snowflakes" applied to those seen as too sensitive, as a slur - and an emotionally detached ruthless toughness praised, and even a predictor of success. I guess this article was written before November 2016 - but hope springs eternal.

http://sociologicalimagination.org/archives/19023
 
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Here and now we are severely isolated by authoritarian application of fear and madness ... a mental construct of invisible state ... unseen ghosts?
 
I don't see any benefit in sorting people into three groups- other than making a sociologist happy. This got to be an American, because I see Canadians very much so teach their kids empathy.
 
Seems like 'empaths' and 'sociopaths' are at opposite ends of spectrum of behviour. Health perhaps is somewhere in the middle?
 
Well, apathy or indifference would be right in the middle. Did you read the article?

I disagree. I don't think it works that way. These are core personalities that don't or can't change much. In the absence of sociopaths - those with little or no capacity for empathy - there is nothing unhealthy for an individual or for society about being an empath.
 
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Well, apathy or indifference would be right in the middle. Did you read the article?

I disagree. I don't think it works that way. These are core personalities that don't or can't change much. In the absence of sociopaths - those with little or no capacity for empathy - there is nothing unhealthy for an individual or for society about being an empath.

I think the article sets up a dichotomous way of seeing the world - and I have rarely found dichotomous thinking to be helpful to living in the world. I just don't usually see life that way - in absolutes. Rather, it's a wonderfully interesting chromatic space of infinite shades & hues, not simply black & white.

I've never even heard the term 'apaths' used - guess it's a sociological term. In all my 40 years of mental health practice, I've rarely encountered anyone who would meet diagnostic criteria for sociopath or psychopath. I've met lots of people who have very troubled thinking, problems with boundaries, live in frequent/constant high conflict with others, have high expressed emotionality, have poor tolerances for differences of opinion, etc. etc. etc. So there's a wide spectrum of behaviours, IMO.

Not sure what the benefit is to labelling groups in the way this article does - except as academic study. What's to be gained by labelling 'core personalities'? Does that suggest that personal change, growth, movement perhaps is not possible?
 
Well...the beginning of the article discusses Trump - and asks the question, essentially, what's gone so wrong that people would even consider electing him - when even respected psychiatrists have broken the Goldwater rule to say that he has Narcissistic personality disorder. When regular people don't need to be psychiatrists to see that something is amiss with his empathic and moral sense. A variant of sociopathy - in the same cluster of personality disorders. Yet, only psychiatrists can diagnose it, so that leaves the world in a bit of a hard place, doesn't it? I think because sociopaths tend to be "successful" in a world that rewards strong competitiveness, and setting emotions aside - and shuns "feelers", and "bleeding hearts" - sociopaths and narcissists are not going to find themselves getting mental health help. The people they affect, might.

Sociology looks at the health of society. Maybe you are used to seeing health from the perspective of individual functioning. Sociopaths would thrive quite well in an environment that rewards their behaviour. Empaths, would not. And I think the article makes that point quite clearly. It's saying that the social environment in many ways - including predictors of success - we've created in society, have become increasingly sociopathic. Some of the emotional lability that might be seen in those considered "empaths" would not be there, not be problematic, if it wasn't socially constructed to be a problem.

And actually, the authors of the study are attempting to mediate the dichotomy by presenting the concept of "apaths" and the role they can play.
 
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The article even points out corporate culture as being "sociopathic" - example (mine)...if corporations are legal persons, they're almost certainly sociopathic. The fact that a giant corporation vs. one individual in legal proceedings, are considered equal parties - is sociopathic (and I'm thinking to make and pass such an act is sociopathic) It cares not that it is a thousand times more powerful. The article makes the point that sociopathic traits can be incorporated into a culture - rules and expectations made by sociopaths in charge - in such a way that they remain sociopathic places (toxic?) even if there are no longer any sociopaths working/ existing there. As individuals 1-4% (sorry, I said as high as 25% but it's actually as high as 1/25 - so that was a bit too high!) of people are assumed to be sociopaths - the exact figures are hard to quantify - probably because they don't seek mental health support. They are not serial killers - that's a stereotype (all serial killers are sociopaths, but almost all sociopaths are not serial killers) - they are quite often successful - they just don't have much empathy for others.
 
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To add one more thing...it's not dichotomous. The article is not saying there are equal parts sociopaths and empaths in society. In fact - 40% of people, it says, are empaths. The majority are what they call "apaths" - decent citizens, but who don't like to stick their necks out and are trained not to cry, etc. - not that they are absent of empathy but they are taught suck it up - and to go with the flow to avoid conflict, even if it bothers their conscience - that is the majority of people. They inhabit shades of grey and varying hues, as you say @Carolla but will go along with sociopathic culture if that's the culture that's flowing. And only a small percentage are actually sociopaths (so the fact that they don't often seek mental health support and they represent about 1-4% - and they can be charming and successful - could be why you have met few that meet the diagnostic criteria.) Nevertheless, sociopaths seek out positions of power and prestige; hence, social environments - including workplaces - take on a sociopathic quality where sociopaths are in charge or have taken charge of shaping the culture - and the culture remains even after they're gone. The article is suggesting ways to change that in the Age of Trump. I think it's bang on. If it weren't for Trump their case would be less clear.
 
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