1 Timothy 6:6-19

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jimkenney12

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This passage is very interesting. Verses 11 and 12 in the Message translation encourage Timothy to seize the eternal life. I realize this letter is probably not written by Paul. It reminded me Jesus was reported as saying the Kingdom of Heaven is near at hand.

Usually the phrase refers to life after death. Here it indicates the eternal life is life lived as an experience of the kingdom of heaven. This passage is part of the readings for September 25 and it will be the 9ne I use for preaching that day. I see it as connected to my current passion for encouraging the building up of communities, especially communities of faith in the face of what may be coming.
 
If eternal like is like heaven and way up there or deep under foot ... it appears out of reach from the bottom line ... where we seem to reside presently!
 
Lo' this is apparently true ... and once this distance was considered a wine dark sea stained by very slow creatures ... encompassing snails speed as it turns ... an illusion as things out there essentially move much faster if you do the math!
 
Drought and floods are already seriously harming crop production in the US and elsewhere in the world.

The war in Ukraine may contribute to other powers deciding it is time for then to go to war. China is getting impatient with getting control of Taiwan and war is possible there.

Supply chain problems, diminishing natural resources, and a variety of economic forces are increasing uncertainty economically.

Nationalism, racism, and other forces are disrupting the political landscape.

Many events are possible. Some are probable. We just do not know what will happen. It would be difficult to prepare for all possibilities. We can establish supportive communities where we can help each other cope with whatever does happen.
 
Maybe, if we can inspire enough people to connect in communities ready to see the world as it is and what is happening, we can push our governments to take actions that can reduce the severity of or even avoid some or many of those events.
 
Maybe, if we can inspire enough people to connect in communities ready to see the world as it is and what is happening, we can push our governments to take actions that can reduce the severity of or even avoid some or many of those events.

Governments as monarchs and CEO's believe they are beyond connecting with the lower common Eire ... thus the disconnect, dissociation as key to escapism ... one going one way and then the alter Nate (short for Nathan and Wisdom) as ere they shorted themselves ... due to lack of knowing the self --- Socrates on the dark and gentile arts matched with white coats!

Some knowledge of both sides of the coin is required ... thus mysterious exchange! Alien thought ... the great flush is on ... brain drain? In neural tissue this is said to be ceros fluid ... with distinct variations at the blood/brain barrio as Osmosis ...

What's mosis? That was misinterpreted also ... MU sing ... complex-ite! As su*el ... one must get the drift as everything goes and one must decide what is good, bad, ugly, or booty (virtue)! Resembles a deep mine ... real' subtle ...

Some folk hold with hard concepts ... other flow like the go round! Ra' Envisioned ... fuzzy Egyptian item ... lost in twilight?

Imagine what's hidden in the thing as Sacred, buried and Gnostic rejection ... driven in ... now unconscious? There be implications ... appreciative spin off? Few receptors as fouled by opioid blockers ... bits of the mitochondrial cellular matter ...

Can you deal with mortals messing with DNA and it's twin ... corrupts the ancient code ... something the present always lies about what initiates ... maybe the NARC factor as all are assigned addictions ... as part of a vast driver (curate mystery; curare, paralyzing)! Terrorizing priests ... butchers of soul?
 
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I am an optimist. I believe it is possible to connect with enough of the elite at times to create meaningful and helpful change and that the community can find ways to cope with unhelpful elites.
 
I am an optimist. I believe it is possible to connect with enough of the elite at times to create meaningful and helpful change and that the community can find ways to cope with unhelpful elites.

Maybe when we're out of here ... beyond present belief in non sense and pure emotions? That'd be nothing to those struck on emotionalism alone ... a dark place? Then they believe intellect is a dark place ... what strikes to give a spark or spore ?

It is just too hard ... life ... for perhaps 99+% according to tests for the pathological! They do provide bad examples to avoid ...
 
6 Of course, there is great gain in godliness combined with contentment, 7 for we brought nothing into the world, so that[a] we can take nothing out of it, 8 but if we have food and clothing, we will be content with these. 9 But those who want to be rich fall into temptation and are trapped by many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, and in their eagerness to be rich some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pains.
I might go with a more Buddhist "For attachment to wealth is a root of all kinds of suffering" but generally in agreement. And it is not just those with wealth, which is indicated by verse 9, "those who want to be rich fall into temptation and are trapped by many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction". It is the attachment to wealth, not the actual wealth, causing the suffering and someone who is poor or of modest means who focusses their life on achieving wealth is just as attached as the rich person who is hoarding and trying to increase their wealth. Recognizing that contentment comes not (or not just, perhaps) from material wealth but spiritual wealth is very important. We need some measure of wealth to live comfortably ("but if we have food and clothing, we will be content with these") but what do we gain besides a lot of stress by striving to go too far beyond that?

As you well know, I wouldn't restrict the spiritual path to "God" or "Christ". In some ways, I think the Buddhist path handles attachment better than the Christian one. The idea of focussing on release from attachment in a more practical way (the eightfold path) rather than focussing on salvation from some cosmic notion of "sin" seems to be more attuned to the real world. It also keeps responsibly squarely on the adherent rather than saying "believe and you shall be whole" as Christianity tends to do. Is one really whole if one believes but still hoards wealth?

Epicureanism and Stoicism both approach this in different ways, too. Epicureanism teaches that pleasure is the highest end but that material pleasures are not the goal, but pleasure that comes from understanding and living in accordance with one's place in the world. It's actually quite an ascetic philosophy in its original form and learning, not "wine, women, and song", was the intended source of "pleasure". Certainly, material wealth is not a true source of pleasure and Epicurus himself was of modest means and something of an ascetic. Stoicism focusses on living in harmony with ones fate and place in reality. If one is rich, that is one's fate, not one's doing, and that wealth is ephemeral as we will all pass one day and wealth will remain in the world. So not much different from Timothy in some ways (and, in fact, I detect Stoic influences in a lot of Christian teaching).
13 In the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who in his testimony before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you
Does anyone know what confession before Pilate this refers to? As in, do you have a chapter and verse from a Gospel that refers to it? I can go hunting but if someone has a reference handy, it would be helpful.
17 As for those who in the present age are rich, command them not to be haughty or to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches but rather on God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. 18 They are to do good, to be rich in good works, generous, and ready to share, 19 thus storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of the life that really is life.
See, this is the mentality around dealing with wealth that I am more supportive of than the "eat the rich" mentality I hear from some sectors of church and society. Yes, a lot of rich people do not live up to it (cough Musk cough) and thereby do a lot of harm, but that's no reason to attack them all. Encourage the idea that material riches are impermanent and cause more harm and grief than joy when hoarding; that by sharing them freely (not with rafts of conditions designed to maximize your tax breaks) you do more good for yourself and the world than by collecting and hoarding them.
I realize this letter is probably not written by Paul.
How much does this matter? I suppose some see it as less authoritative for that reason but even those who assembled the canon or influenced that process must have had some inkling and still included it. Clearly, the early church saw it as in some way authoritative or spiritually important to the church even if it came from a follower of Paul, not the man himself.
 
If the great immaterial cosmos has any effect on the material ... what effect does freedom have on nothing left to lose?

Thus that out of here sentient? Maybe connected to begone ... and so chez goes ... all into the word of myth ... and greatly eliminated by desire is intellect on such disposal and disposition!

Presently the stronger urges to more physical grasp leads to destructive materialism of self elimination nature ... intellect is beyond desire, etc.? Avarice ... rheum on the rooks ... there amphibians ... hard brained matter of the dinosaur type ... precious ancient -ism? Imagine a beasty to defeat ... alternate be asialism? All inclusive ... some say creature benefits ... beasty?
 
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Thank you Mendalla, for this commentary. A problem with the testimony Jesus gave before Pilate is that 5his letter might have been written before any of the Gospels, so referring to a story within the community about what Jesus said. The phrase I remember best is , "My kingdom is not of this world ".
 
Thank you Mendalla, for this commentary. A problem with the testimony Jesus gave before Pilate is that 5his letter might have been written before any of the Gospels, so referring to a story within the community about what Jesus said. The phrase I remember best is , "My kingdom is not of this world ".

Would that not indicate t pagan, heathen or archeological Jesus of great age that you cannot dig because of the anima-animus perspective of present duality is denied in a one way stretch? Some resilient shrink is useful ... essential healer with exterior perspective!
 
Does anyone know what confession before Pilate this refers to?
Mark 15:2
Amplified Bible
Pilate questioned Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And He replied to him, “It is as you say.”

Context
Jesus Delivered to Pilate
1Early in the morning, the chief priests, elders, scribes, and the whole Sanhedrin devised a plan. They bound Jesus, led Him away, and handed Him over to Pilate. 2 So Pilate questioned Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” “You have said so,” Jesus replied. 3And the chief priests began to accuse Him of many things.…
 
unsafe, you do realize that you've given two translations that contradict each other or are, at best, incongruent.

There is distinct difference between "It is as you say", which agrees with the question (are you King of the Jews?), and "You have said so", which might or might not agree with the question and contains a clear unspoken "but I say"...
 
The NRSVUE reads similar to the second one, perhaps even without the implied "but I say."

"Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” He answered him, “You say so.”
 
"I say there" is a tone that sounds very much of British Empire Loyalty!

Then there are diverse tongues all trying to win or at least survive as hidden in vernacular spin (English) and thus some fade into the chatter ... reinforcing the statement question all things and some pious tongues do not even question themselves ... thus masses forming great unknowns ... because they can with will and little knowhow!

If life wilful? Leaving something out there as the autonomous beast ... partially neurotic ... all the way is psychotic? The vernacular does not address the matter as insubstantial in their belief ... upgrading/upbraiding is desired ... thus stakes ... long baffling fences ... naturally a hedgerow ... generally what goes on in there is wild ...

Abstract ... unsafe wildness ... gnostic and hidden because of ... we don't know ... because of demands! Shameful nothings ...
 
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