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WhyCzar said:
At the Al Quds Day rally there are calls for the elimination of the State of Israel.
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Good luck with that ---Israel is God's land -----as a matter of Fact every land is God's land as He created all of it it -----No one owns any Land ----or any thing -----everything belongs to God We are Just Stewards of what God's Grace has allowed us to have -----

Israel is the home base for God's 7 year Tribulation -------so all who think they own Israel will be get a big shock ------

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What is Israel’s role in the end times? | GotQuestions.org

What is Israel’s role in the end times? What is going to happen to the nation of Israel in the end times?
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However, the Bible does say there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times. That is why the time period is known as the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation, and the “time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7). Here is what the Bible says about Israel in the end times:

There will be a mass return of Jews to the land of Israel (Deuteronomy 30:3; Isaiah 43:6; Ezekiel 34:11-13; 36:24; 37:1-14).

The Antichrist will make a 7-year covenant of "peace" with Israel (Isaiah 28:18; Daniel 9:27).

The temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 11:1).

The Antichrist will break his covenant with Israel, and worldwide persecution of Israel will result (Daniel 9:27; 12:1, 11; Zechariah 11:16; Matthew 24:15, 21; Revelation 12:13). Israel will be invaded (Ezekiel chapters 38-39).

Israel will finally recognize Jesus as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10). Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered (Jeremiah 33:8; Ezekiel 11:17; Romans 11:26).

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In Genesis 17:8,
God promises Abraham that the land of Canaan is an "everlasting possession" for him and his descendants, not that it belonged to an individual directly

Psalm 24​

Of David. A psalm.​

1 The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it,

2nbsp;for he founded it on the seas
and established it on the waters.

The Jews do not own Israel and neither do the Palestinians---- or any other group ----

Doug Ford doesn't want chaos in his city ------so good on him -----
 
2 Thessalonians 2 :*


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Then the lawless one [the Antichrist] will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of His mouth and bring him to an end by the appearance of His coming.
 
WhyCzar said:
Despite the injunction effort, the rally is proceeding at the U.S. Consulate with heightened police presence.
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GOOD-OH !!!!!!!!=====but there efforts to eliminate Israel is very Futile ---Stupid and Dumb ---cause that will never Happen ---Israel is under God ---Not man
 
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GOOD-OH !!!!!!!!=====but there efforts to eliminate Israel is very Futile ---Stupid and Dumb ---cause that will never Happen ---Israel is under God ---Not man
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Palestine is under? Efforts to eliminate free speech are under?
 
A judge shot down the injunction application. Ford is pissed but clearly, his lawyers did not convince the judge there was sufficient grounds to abrogate freedom of speech. Like the decision or not, it is how our system works and should work. Loudmouth politicians with a history of bullying should not be making decisions unchecked by the courts.

 
WhyCzar said:
Palestine is under?
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is under God --and God promised the Israelites they would be able to have free reign to live and be Stewards on this land ----God never gave anybody ownership of any land of his earth ---God owns every piece of land on this earth still not the Arabs or Jews ------or anyone else --

this is where the Arabs and Jews have all their understanding misinterpreted and are fighting over land that does not belong to either one of them ----it Belongs to God ------Period

Get this ----this is what God gave to the Israelites to be Stewards of only ------God did not give them OWNERSHIP of the Land ---In God's Grace He have them a place to call home to look after ---only -----Just like He gave Adam and Eve control over the earth to look after it be a GOOD Steward over the earth and look how that turned out ------God did not give Adam and Eve ownership of the earth -----

People need to get this ------

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What is the land that God promised to Israel? | GotQuestions.org

What is the land that God promised to Israel? What are the borders of the territory God gave to the Israelites as an inheritance?
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According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east).

On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses,
plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

People are Nuts if they think the have ownership of any land or any possessions they have ---and that includes ALL OF US ----

--God Owns everything ==everybody has ----Why ---Cause you only have it cause God gave you the ability to have it ---
 
unsafe said:
On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses,
plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
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So you are absolutely fine with modern Israel, which has only a tenuous connection to the kingdom of that name that was destroyed by the Assyrians, using ancient texts to justify seizing land and triggering wars that will kill millions? Sorry, that's just insane.

I do agree that we do not own the land. We are a part of it and it is a part of us. We are beholden to it for our very existence. But that is all the more reason for us to share it and work peacefully with others to ensure it is managed for the benefit of all, not use 2000 year old texts to justify brutal assaults on our neighbours. We are all part of one ecosystem and will all perish if we keep f***ing it up.
 
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it doesn't matter ----all this goings on with these 2 races for land that they think they own is what is insane -----and the Israelites had stipulations put on them by God for this land ---they had to be circumcised and they had to obey God Command which they failed to do ---and God warned them the land would be taken from them if they disobeyed ------

And they Disobeyed ----


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The biblical concept that keeping God's commandments is a condition for occupying the Promised Land is a central theme in the Old Testament, particularly within the covenants of Deuteronomy and Leviticus. God warns that disobedience will result in losing the land and being exiled.

They have no claim to anything ---and neither do the Arabs -----2 races trying to eliminate each other over land they don't own ---- or have any claim to ---

Key scriptural references connecting obedience to land retention include:
  • Leviticus 26:3-33: God promises that if Israel walks in His statutes and keeps His commandments, they will live safely in the land and it will yield its produce. However,

  • if they disobey, he explicitly warns: "I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation... And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste"
This theme is often summarized as: Obedience equals security in the land; disobedience equals expulsion from the land.
 
Arab groups descended from Ishmael ----Abraham's son he had with Hagar ---and God banished them to the wilderness as he was not part of the Covenant God made with Abraham ------and out of His Grace ----blessed Ishmael and said He would make him a great nation ---he became the Father of 12 sons---

Genesis 16 ---the angel is speaking to Hagar here

11 ;The angel of the Lord also said to her:

“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,
for the Lord has heard of your misery.

12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward all his brothers.”

AI
many Arab tribes, particularly in Northern Arabia, descended from Ishmael, son of Abraham and Hagar. Ishmael is recognized as the ancestor of Adnan, the forefather of many northern Arab tribes and the Prophet Muhammad. While the Bible mentions Ishmael's 12 sons as princes of tribes, the broader Arab nation includes diverse populations, with the connection to Ishmael being more directly emphasized in Islamic genealogy---

Key details regarding the lineage:
  • The Twelve Sons: The Bible (Genesis 25) identifies Ishmael's 12 sons as heads of tribes or "nations," who settled in the deserts of Arabia.
  • Northern Arabs: Ishmael is traditionally considered the ancestor of the "Musta'riba" (Arabized) tribes of Northern Arabia.
  • Prophetic Lineage: Islamic tradition traces the ancestry of Muhammad to Ishmael through his son Kedar or Nebaioth.
  • Cultural Fusion: The tradition suggests Ishmael married into a local Arabian tribe (Jurhum) and learned Arabic, becoming a patriarch of Northern Arab communities.
 
So here you have the Arabs and the Israelites thinking that they both have claims to Israel and surrounding areas cause their father is Abraham who God made His Covenant with---- and think the land is theirs -----that is what this fighting is over -----one trying to eliminate one another ---Stupid and dumb ----out of their Ignorance of spiritual understanding --

When in fact it belongs to neither of them ---that is what is INSANE ---

Ishmael was born out of Sarah's and Abraham's Disobedience to believe God and went their own way to have a child ---and Abraham was punished for the disobedience -----God never spoke to Abraham for 13 years ---scripture says that Ishmael was 13 when God finally spoke to Abraham and out of His Grace ---God Blessed Ishmael and Hagar even though He didn't have to -----and Showed His Grace to Abraham and Sarah and gave them a second chance to obey Him ----by believing they could child bear at 99 years old ------

Ishmael had a rebellious Character and carried that trough to his Arab groups----

and by becoming a great nation Ishmael fulfills God's promise that He would make him a great Nation ---
 
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When placed in a working medium ... does the word moderate from its previous high hubris?

Thus it comes down from that alien place (Psyche) that is despised by overly emotional folk that breathe fire ... Lyster Ine-Ah?

What the chance of hail in a hot disturbance in the night ... Dan chewing the bit ... its just words ... that's all nothing more ... entertains the votives ... these can be seen flickering out there ... imbedded in the greater story that is still nothing to cling to ... we must contribute ... thus accrued measures ... given what the determined have to work with ...

Wee ones observe ... ones upon time? I will ... drift off ...
 
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