Where is your faith at?

[Luce NDs]

Do all actions have rebound effect ... reactions?

Imagine what hidden gentile things happen when brute power is obvious and outrightly active!

Thus humility remains buried ... as if it were dead. Then in some ancient languages the word for wisdom and death are interchanged as if substitutional ...

Is that substantial ... like sub is dippy? Word can be peculiarly difficult to work with without considerable knowledge of the greater spread (expanse)! Stress Mate ... snappy?

Please do no beat on the topicals ... speak only critically indicating flaws in the systematic ...

PS: The brutes won't know what you say any howes ... expect ho' welles ... and Gid-Ayes!

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

There’s a version of belief that leaves out love for people completely which isn’t what Jesus, who is the godhead in Christianity, was about. By differentiating Human belief (unbelief) vs True Believers vs Demonic believers - that disempowers God into something that is only capable of loving some and not others. That’s a human made formula anyway, isn’t it? All of these catch phrases are human formulas interpreted from the bible that create spite and division toward others - sometimes toward the people spreading them which they are then programmed to double down on, creating more division - they are formulated by some preacher somewhere’s mind, for human control - like a game. They are reflections of the persons who came up with them, not God. If God is all powerful God is able to love everyone and understand everyone including their flaws and doubts and wouldn’t reject his own creations, the way people reject other people of differing faiths or doubts. If God created humans with flaws (ie capable of sin) why would God play games with them that harm them for having the flaws he created, or for not understanding the game? That doesn’t sound like a merciful God. It doesn’t sound like Jesus.

 

[unsafe]

There’s a version of belief that leaves out love for people completely which isn’t what Jesus, who is the godhead in Christianity, was about.

What is this version of belief that leaves out Love ?????-----never heard of this ---so you must have some information on this belief ----can you share it Cause this is what I found ------

From Google
What makes people stop believing in love?

At the end of the day, the only thing truly stopping you from believing in love again is fear. Fear of heartbreak. Fear of rejection. Fear of repeating the same mistakes.

AI
Individuals who adopt a belief system about relationships or life in general that excludes love often do so as a protective measure against pain or disappointment

which isn’t what Jesus, who is the godhead in Christianity, was about.

Well ---Jesus is NOT the Godhead in true Christianity -----Jesus is the Son of the Father who is the Godhead -----Jesus isn't about Agape ---Jesus is Agape -----

But Jesus is also a Judge -----who calls a Spade a Spade -----He harshly Judged the Pharisees with Righteous Judgment -------Jesus also came with the Sword of the Word to Divide the not to bring peace --

By differentiating Human belief (unbelief)

Human Belief is NOT unbelief ----Human Faith believes in what is seen ---what is heard ---what is felt ---what is touches ---and what is tasted -----

The Person with Human Faith cannot grasp the Spiritual meaning of God's word ---who Is Jesus -----

True Believers

Are Born Again and have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who can grasp the Spiritual meaning of God's word --Who is Jesus ------

Demonic believers

I don;t know about demonic believers --- the Scripture says demons have Faith ----as they believe that Jesus the son of God and they are scared of Him -----

that disempowers God into something that is only capable of loving some and not others.

God;s IS Agape ----God Loves everyone --all people good and bad ----even when they reject Him ---call Him names ---mock Him etc --His Agape is always present for all people

That’s a human made formula anyway, isn’t it?

When People say God doesn't love all people ---you are right --with this statement
That’s a human made formula anyway,

All of these catch phrases are human formulas interpreted from the bible that create spite and division toward others

Kimmio ----the Bible if spiritually understood does't cause spite and division towards others -----the spite and division towards others is caused by not having the right Faith and trying to understand scripture with the Human intellectual mind ------which is incapable of Spiritual understanding ---unbelievers twisting the scripture and wrongly dividing the Word ---who is Jesus ----

If God is all powerful God is able to love everyone and understand everyone including their flaws and doubts and wouldn’t reject his own creations, the way people reject other people of differing faiths or doubts.

God does'n reject anyone -----WE humans Reject God ------as far as other Faiths go ----

We should respect what faiths people are entertaining but Jesus made it very clear in His word that -----No one comes to the Father except through ME ----and the Father resides in Heaven --so anyone expecting to get into heaven by entertaining other faiths -----I believe will be very disappointed when they pass from this world -----

If God created humans with flaws (ie capable of sin) why would God play games with them that harm them for having the flaws he created, or for not understanding the game?

Wherever did you get that understanding ----That is False Doctrine at its Best

God doesn't Play Games --we humans play games -----

God created Adam and Eve without flaws ---they had a personal Spiritual Relationship WITH GOD ----there was no Flaws Created in any of God's creation ---the plants ---trees and all the animals birds ---fish etc were created Flawless -------no sickness --no disease --and no Death - ---

God gave Adam and Eve FREE Will to Choose ---and He told them Not to eat of the Tree of Good and Evil or they would DIE ---THEY Disobeyed all by themselves ---they made a bad Choice ----and were punished for it ------God showed His Mercy by not out right Killing them on the spot ---he banished them from the Garden

When Adam and Eve fell the whole world fell and was cursed ----and the world remains Cursed today and all humans are born with the Sin Nature cursed -----

God cursed the ground that Adam was made from -----Eve got pains in childbirth ---and she got that she would strive to be like her husband which is we have feminists movements today ---- women striving to be equal with the man ---

We humans caused our own fate ----not God -----and God doesn't PLAY GAMES -----Kimmio

That doesn’t sound like a merciful God. It doesn’t sound like Jesus.

Well Jesus is God -----so God is merciful ----He did't kill Adam and Eve for disobeying Him ---many times in the Old Testament God showed His Mercy ---and Grace and Patience putting up with the Israelite's disobeying Him ===worshiping idols --etc ----

We humans deserve nothing from God --yet he allows us to open our eyes everyday by and through His Grace and Mercy ---so be thankful to God for what you have -----

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

As the story goes:

If God gave Adam and Eve the choice to sin, then he also created them with the capacity to sin. They couldn’t do it if they weren’t made to be able to. Whose fault is that? (And if God is faultless and he made all things then there is no blame). And that also means God determined what sin is before creating humans to be able to do the things God hates, and then punishes them - when he was the one who made the Earth and the conditions on Earth hostile to his living beings. He also created both Trees and sent a snake in to set them up to possibly fail - if God is all knowing then he knew they would - because he made their will too weak to resist. That’s how the story comes off from some belief systems/ theologies and if so, it does seem like God was playing games with peoples’ souls when he could’ve just skipped all that and not have made humans that strayed from him, and if he didn’t allow Satan any way in, in the first place. It’s pretty cruel - but again if that was God’s plan it’s hardly our fault. Lots of mixed messages there.

Jesus covered all that though. And Christian people are supposed to follow Jesus’ teachings not behave like God.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I am thankful for what I have. I’m a bit upset with God for how much pain and struggle there is for people - it’s getting worse all the time - and how much worse off several millions of people are.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Well ---Jesus is NOT the Godhead in true Christianity -----Jesus is the Son of the Father who is the Godhead -----Jesus isn't about Agape ---Jesus is Agape -----

Colossians 2:9, which states that "in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily".

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

“So remember we have Satan still around and he deceives many ----he can parade as an angel of Light ----and Make us Like what certain Scripture is saying so we believe wrongly and end up with him in the end -----“ @unsafe - your words.

What is this version of belief that leaves out Love ?????-----never heard of this ---so you must have some information on this belief ----can you share it Cause this is what I found ------ good question.

From Google
What makes people stop believing in love?

At the end of the day, the only thing truly stopping you from believing in love again is fear. Fear of heartbreak. Fear of rejection. Fear of repeating the same mistakes. …You agreed with AI here. (So better not believe wrongly in certain scripture or else! …Get it?)

(Sorry I’m a bit lazy with the quote function. I found these quotes in a couple of different posts of unsafe’s so this was easier.)

 

[unsafe]

If God gave Adam and Eve the choice to sin, then he also created them with the capacity to sin.

That is False ---He created then to have a Personal Spiritual Fellowship with Him ----they were Holy in Nature ----Gos gave the angels and mankind Free will to choose to Obey Him or Not ----they committed the sin all on their own ---

 

[Luce NDs]

That is False ---He created then to have a Personal Spiritual Fellowship with Him ----they were Holy in Nature ----Gos gave the angels and mankind Free will to choose to Obey Him or Not ----they committed the sin all on their own ---

Such things create the unbelievable states ... dark spots in the white sky syndrome! Hard liners would reject such doubts ... and they appear as dark rays in a night sky ... so invisible ... virtual unseen! It is the way word falls together in this incident ...

Those stiff and hard are baffled ... they do make good fence posts!

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

That is False ---He created then to have a Personal Spiritual Fellowship with Him ----they were Holy in Nature ----Gos gave the angels and mankind Free will to choose to Obey Him or Not ----they committed the sin all on their own ---

According to theology similar to yours: He created humans with the ability to choose. If he did not give them the ability to choose they couldn’t have chosen to sin. Also, if God knows everything he already knew they would sin. That sounds like a set up.

Also who created the serpent and demons and Satan and evil entities that lead humans astray? They already existed before humans. Why would a loving God give humans the ability for fall under their control, knowing already what their intentions were because he already planned it before humans existed? Why would he create some people who’d inevitably fall into eternal torment, knowing that they would because he already knows all time, and others he’d save after putting them through trials he knew in advance but they didn’t, making them terrified of not being saved?

 

[Luce NDs]

Then some of the fellowship didn't desire to associate and they moved off telling the balance to descend and thus it went down ... to support Gabrielle! Considerable fallout ... just look up at night ... it continues to this day ... stardust?

I've heard estimates that 100 million tons a day collect in a ball at the center of our attention ... a growing stage?

It may need to vent ... because of frustration at being confined ...

Call it my shot in the dark as I declare; "I don't know either!"

Maybe it is the smearing that bothers me from the hubris type! They only do it to make themselves rise up ...

Let that sink in and you discover a deficiency of answers ... a Holy Gap! Fracture???? Bun Goal ... is tacky but holds together as bread ... internal sticklers.

 

[unsafe]

According to theology similar to yours: He created humans with the ability to choose. If he did not give them the ability to choose they couldn’t have chosen to sin. Also, if he knows everything he already knew they would sin. That sounds like a set up.

Well you can think that --but really your Calling God EVIL ---and that is Blasphemy --not good for you in your end ----Just saying

Ask yourself ---would you want to go through this Life without having the ability to Choose what you want to do ????????????????

Would you want to be force to accept God even though you may not want to ====

God Put the Tree of Life right next to the Tree of Good and Evil -----

Now the Tree of life was available for them to Eat from ----the Tree of Life keeps you in a Holy State -----so they could have eaten from the Tree of Life and they choose to eat from the Wrong Tree that God forbid them to eat from ----

They had a Choice to remain Holy or have the Knowledge of Good and evil ----

They made the Wrong choice ------

What is the meaning of the tree of life? | GotQuestions.org

What is the meaning of the tree of life? Why would eating from the tree of life result in everlasting life?

www.gotquestions.org

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What is the meaning of the tree of life?​

The tree of life, mentioned in the books of Genesis and Revelation, is a life-giving tree created to enhance and perpetually sustain the physical life of humanity. The tree was planted by God in the Garden of Eden: “The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil” (Genesis 2:9). The centrally located tree of life would have been easily accessible to Adam and Eve from any point in the garden.

More details concerning the tree of life come after Adam and Eve’s sin: “The LORD God said, ‘The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever’” (Genesis 3:22). In his disobedience, Adam lost his eternal life. The tree of life in Eden must have had some role to play in maintaining the life of Adam and Eve (and possibly the animals). Adam would “live forever,” even in his fallen condition, if he had eaten the tree of life after his sin. God placed a sword-wielding cherub at the entrance to the garden specifically “to guard the way to the tree of life” (verse 24). It seems access to the tree of life would have prolonged Adam’s physical life indefinitely, dooming him to an eternity in a cursed world.

It was a mercy that God kept us from the tree of life. By barring access to the tree of life, God showed compassion in His omniscience. Knowing that, because of sin, earthly life would be filled with sorrow and toil, God graciously limited the number of years men would live. To live eternally in a sinful state would mean endless agony for humanity, with no hope of the relief that comes with death. By limiting our lifespan, God gives us enough time to come to know Him and His provision for eternal life through Christ but spares us the misery of an endless existence in a sinful condition.

In His great love, God provided One who would redeem fallen mankind. Through one man, Adam, sin entered the world, but through another Man, Jesus Christ, redemption through the forgiveness of sin is available to all (Romans 5:17). Those who avail themselves of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross will be resurrected to see the tree of life again, for it stands in the middle of the Holy City, the New Jerusalem, where it bears “twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations” (Revelation 22:2). In the eternal state, the curse will be no more (verse 3), access to the tree of life will be reinstated, and darkness will be forever banished (verse 5). Eden will be restored.

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[Luce NDs]

God's devilish side is quite shady for those in the glow ... thus the dark side!

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I don’t believe in an evil God who’d punish people for asking questions instead of just accepting that interpretation.

 

[Luce NDs]

I don’t believe in an evil God who’d punish people for asking questions instead of just accepting that interpretation.

Therein the divine separates ... creating plurality if nothing else! Some Christians thus begin to fall apart ...

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

If God can do anything why would he put us into an earthy life filled with struggle and toil if God is Love? That’s mean.

Did God bar us from the tree of life? Or did God give us a choice of two trees? It can’t be both.

Either way he knew they’d eat from the “bad” one. It doesn’t make any loving sense.

 

[unsafe]

And that also means God determined what sin is before creating humans to be able to do the things God hates, and then punishes them

Again your saying God Created evil and that is False Doctrine ------that is the unforgivable sin ---and it goes against the scripture ----

So Good luck to you when you Bow before God in the end -----

From Google
James 1:13: "God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone".
This verse explicitly states that God does not tempt people to do evil.

1 John 1:5: "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all".
This emphasizes God's inherent goodness and moral purity, stating that evil is incompatible with His nature.


God allows evil but He is not the Author of Evil -------and God Put a Remedy in place for us to avoid Evil ------all up to us to choose to enter into evil or avoid it ------ WE DECIDE

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I question human interpretations of God. You don’t know what anyone’s eternal fate is. A loving God couldn’t hate anyone for asking questions about others theology. We’re all just figuring things out as we go along. You have a human invented theology. It’s just not very kind if you tell others they’re going to hell for eternity.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

We decide or God already knows? Which one?

 

[Luce NDs]

Gods appear more like war machines to me ... if they'd stop hiding behind the shroud that they are peace making ... that's broke, maybe hint of the disturbed ... a sigh in the wind? It carried better ...