89 chapter project: Matthew

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BetteTheRed said:
Agreed. But neither does it state in the biblical record, even the canonical one, that he was not. The extra-canonical books make it even more unclear. What argument do you make against the "normative role of a Jewish male"?
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A marriage is an important thing in one's life. I believe that if he had been married, the Bible would state as such. It does not.
 
Argument by absence doesn't convince me. Occasional references to the disciple that Jesus loved intrigue me.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Argument by absence doesn't convince me. Occasional references to the disciple that Jesus loved intrigue me.
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You can believe as you will Bette. Fact is, the Bible does not state that Jesus was married.

Oh, and the disciple that Jesus loved refers to John.
 
For the life of me, I cannot imagine a person as being "fully human" unless they have, at least, tried being married.
 
BetteTheRed said:
For the life of me, I cannot imagine a person as being "fully human" unless they have, at least, tried being married.
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You can't imagine that single people who have always been content in their singleness are "fully human?" :confused:

How does a marriage add to one's humanity iyho?
 
So ... in the Gospel according to Matthew ... does Jesus of Nazareth in any way shape or form condone abuse of children or mention that he himself was married, is married, or intends to get married?
 
Jae said:
You can't imagine that single people who have always been content in their singleness are "fully human?" :confused:

How does a marriage add to one's humanity iyho?
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I know of a few people who have been single all of their lives who are happy enough, although rarely role models of any sort.

Seems to me that wrestling with the terrible intimacy of intimate relationship changes a person towards greater empathy. If Jesus didn't have a wife, he most certainly had a lover. I'm not sure that a person who exemplifies the spirit of love in humanity could possibly be asexual.

My personal life hero/role model, Desmond Tutu, often looks to his beloved spouse, Leah, for guidance and wisdom.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I know of a few people who have been single all of their lives who are happy enough, although rarely role models of any sort.

Seems to me that wrestling with the terrible intimacy of intimate relationship changes a person towards greater empathy. If Jesus didn't have a wife, he most certainly had a lover. I'm not sure that a person who exemplifies the spirit of love in humanity could possibly be asexual.

My personal life hero/role model, Desmond Tutu, often looks to his beloved spouse, Leah, for guidance and wisdom.
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It does not follow that a person who is content in their singleness must be asexual. Perhaps he absolutely had some sexual feelings but controlled them to go about the business he came to Earth for - the redemption of Creation.
 
Jae said:
It does not follow that a person who is content in their singleness must be asexual. Perhaps he absolutely had some sexual feelings but controlled them to go about the business he came to Earth for - the redemption of Creation.
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And how well has that worked for his Catholic followers, lol? It's a shitty role model. A god-man who doesn't know how to be in a committed relationship.
 
BetteTheRed said:
And how well has that worked for his Catholic followers, lol? It's a s**tty role model. A god-man who doesn't know how to be in a committed relationship.
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A good many of his Catholic followers have not run into problems Bette. Also - unlike Jesus, not one of his Catholic followers is God in human flesh.
 
BetteTheRed said:
And how well has that worked for his Catholic followers, lol? It's a s**tty role model. A god-man who doesn't know how to be in a committed relationship.
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And if he was in a committed relationship which he was not the Catholic priest would still do what they did because it was their choice alone to commit the atrocity
 
Summary: Matthew 20: 1 - 34

1. The parable of the workers in the vineyard. All workers are given the same daily wage regardless of the time they arrived. Those who arrived first are indignant. The landowner points out he can do what he wishes with his own things. "So the last will be first and the first last. For many are called but few chosen." (29:16 NKJ)

2. Jesus again predicts his death and resurrection.

3. The mother of Zebedee's sons requests special status for them. Jesus responds that this is not his to give. Whoever desires to be great must first be a servant. "Just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many." (20:28 NKJ)

4. Moved with compassion, Jesus restores the sight to two blind men.
 
Jae said:
You can believe as you will Bette. Fact is, the Bible does not state that Jesus was married.

Oh, and the disciple that Jesus loved refers to John.
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Possibly not ... may have been the source of doubt ... Thomas ... and thus the entire, indeterminate context is up for argument ... the primal purpose of setting something physical against the essence ... so the vapours could be driven out ... Freud on Ephraim of broad=based ventures ... about the unknowns and sheaths ... air bladders from fish?

God was bored need a conflict in the great unknown idealism ... that which is beyond mortals ...

Yours in virtue to continue without peace ... God rest the left over portions ... sect oars ... paddle hard!

With evolving word could marriage be a mirage ... illusionary vow ... given the stretch ahead?
 
Summary: Matthew 20: 1- 34

Going with those two questions, what attracts me and what do I resist or not understand in this chapter?

I am attracted by both the compassionate and obedient (accepting of God's will) nature of Jesus. Many seem to downplay atonement theology these days but the gospel writer has Jesus himself accepting it as reality.

The parable of the workers in the vineyard is a challenge despite having heard a sermon about it just a few months ago. The "many or called but few are chosen" line doesn't even seem to fit with the parable.

Will think it over. I have two long subway rides on my schedule today so there will be plenty of opportunity for pondering.
 
paradox3 said:
The parable of the workers in the vineyard is a challenge despite having heard a sermon about it just a few months ago. The "many or called but few are chosen" line doesn't even seem to fit with the parable.
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God, I believe, is loving and hence calls everyone to salvation. However, I also believe that he is Sovereign - he has chosen his elect who he actually will save.
 
Only use 10% of the resources at a time ... so there will be time for the 9 others ...

These could be the array of Muses ... just to support the array of myths ... about thoughts can astray!

Really it is all quite Eire and unknown for all we know as having been given a rest from the immortal sense ...

Thus intense stretches co on as even nothing in the great cosmos is pure ... improper separation or mortal from immortal ... for leers through the cracks? We are a broken population it seems ... po' ethically spoke Tu? Thus duality! Tu dumb to know from the over twisting in the plunge ... abstract dipping as Dunne ...

Plus ... what would the immortal choose as having possessive trends ... God's OCD! You can't escape the entirety ... no matter which way you turn ... even the Hutti Tutti ... you are prone to recall to the source ... wherever that might reside ... nowhere's?

Thu SOC' doubt sensation in the God Game is Dark ... G' Zous ... the spark on impulsive impact of colli dis cope ...

Dark Halos may be encountered as temporary clouds ... terse OI'd ... or stiff competition to keep it up?
 
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