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Kimmio said:
A couple few years ago you were all into the demonic looking Obama memes and democrat=illuminati conspiracies.
You are firmly anti-Clinton. You were before the election.

Where did that stuff originate?

(...an aside that might interest you...did you know that Russia is really big into occult conspiracies? It's a mega-bucks industry there. Look it up yourself. I'm trying to help you. I've seen evidence of what you're drawn to, what interests you, and how you come to believe things, by what you post here....excuse me for thinking to myself, "What happens when you mix Russian occult, conspiracy, spy games, hackers trolls and memes, and media sound bites broadcast to purposely uneducated and undereducated masses?")

"Be careful not to call a man a fool or you may be in danger hellfire." Rough translation...keep the masses in the dark...then insult the one man who is promising them their American Dream...hand out a few tiki torches at a right wing rally...and it's pretty clear that things have taken a wrong turn.
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sure, dosent mean i believe them , there is also pictures of Obama being the resurrected King Akhenaten, i guess he must be

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In the darkness of the heart of what we know what's ... thick?

Is Jack handed off as well baited ... isn't that the debel ...

And then that could be the debel-ish imagination as abstracted ... incomplete as the Land of Egypt as set up as the realm of imagination in the greater story as it grinds down ... with the aid of mortals an pied a' stalls ?
 
Twisted scripture???

A redaction of ancient myth? Something to get straight or is that improbable given the go rounds ... environment?

Seems to hint at chaos Theo's to me ....
 
blackbelt1961 said:
no it only has to do with Bush and Obama


Howard Silverblatt@hsilverb

Call it whatever you want, but from the election the $SPX is up 16.29% (18.33% TR) or $2.04 trillion, with income tax reform coming to bat

5:00 PM - Sep 11, 2017
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I didn't say that it wasn't up under Trump. I said that it's a continuing trend that started under Bush, continued with Obama and is continuing with Trump.

As for the Democrats having had 20 years. Just not true. Going back to 1993:

Democrats have held the presidency for 16 years, Republicans for 9.

Clinton (D) - 8 years (1993-2001)
Bush (R) - 8 years (2001-2009)
Obama (D) - 8 years (2009-2017)
Trump (R) - 1 year (current)

In the House, the Democrats controlled during the 103rd, 110th and 111th Congresses.
The Republicans controlled the 104th, 105th, 106th, 107th, 108th 109th, 112th, 113th, 114th and 115th Congresses.

In the Senate, the Democrats controlled during the 103rd, 110th, 111th, 112th, and 113th Congresses.
The Republicans controlled during the 104th, 105th, 106th, 108th, 109th, 114th and 115th Congresses.
The 107th Congress was split.

Just the facts.
 
Kimmio said:
Why post them and spread them around? They got you to do their work without even knowing it! And that was a racist meme...helping bolster the racists.
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Oh, @blackbelt - that meme was also was made to egg on the homophobes. Trolls and hackers - working in the US and Russia, got purposely undereducated (not stupid people, just purposely homeschooled or purposely poorly educated - authoritarians purposely do not encourage broad learning) people spreading racist and homophobic memes, some with an "occult" bent, to get those with racist and homophobic leanings, to elect people with an authoritarian racist and homophobic agenda.

It works in Russia, so they tried it on US citizens too. And the Repubs said, "If we can't beat 'em, we might as well join 'em." (Because they support power for powers' sake. remember...they were wary of Russia five minutes before Trump came on the scene. They were part of the "axis of evil" weren't they? I don't think Russian ppl are any more evil than any ppl - but governments are corrupt and I think this is the biggest corruption scandal the US has ever seen.)

No...sorry...Russia was not part of the stated axis of evil. But conservative Republicans were wary of Russia... The fact that as soon as Trump came along, they weren't - makes me suspicious.
 
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Kimmio said:
Oh, @blackbelt - that meme was also was made to egg on the homophobes. Trolls and hackers - working in the US and Russia, got purposely undereducated (not stupid people, just purposely homeschooled or purposely poorly educated - authoritarians purposely do not encourage broad learning) people spreading racist and homophobic memes, some with an "occult" bent, to get those with racist and homophobic leanings, to elect people with an authoritarian racist and homophobic agenda.

It works in Russia, so they tried it on US citizens too. And the Repubs said, "If we can't beat 'em, we might as well join 'em." (Because they support power for powers' sake. remember...they were wary of Russia five minutes before Trump came on the scene. They were part of the "axis of evil" weren't they? I don't think Russian ppl are any more evil than any ppl - but governments are corrupt and I think this is the biggest corruption scandal the US has ever seen.)
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The "Axis of Evil" was a term spawned by George W. Bush. It was Iran, Iraq and North Korea.
 
revsdd said:
I didn't say that it wasn't up under Trump. I said that it's a continuing trend that started under Bush, continued with Obama and is continuing with Trump.

As for the Democrats having had 20 years. Just not true. Going back to 1993:

Democrats have held the presidency for 16 years, Republicans for 9.

Clinton (D) - 8 years (1993-2001)
Bush (R) - 8 years (2001-2009)
Obama (D) - 8 years (2009-2017)
Trump (R) - 1 year (current)

In the House, the Democrats controlled during the 103rd, 110th and 111th Congresses.
The Republicans controlled the 104th, 105th, 106th, 107th, 108th 109th, 112th, 113th, 114th and 115th Congresses.

In the Senate, the Democrats controlled during the 103rd, 110th, 111th, 112th, and 113th Congresses.
The Republicans controlled during the 104th, 105th, 106th, 108th, 109th, 114th and 115th Congresses.
The 107th Congress was split.

Just the facts.
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nice facts, lets see what happens
 
Yes. @revsdd I looked it up to double check because I couldn't remember which three. I got it wrong. I do know that Republicans have long been suspicious of Russia...as of late, their involvement in Ukraine and Crimea...until Trump came along.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
nice facts, lets see what happens
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I'm impressed that you called facts "nice". You're typically not on speaking terms with facts. You prefer alternate facts of your own making, like to sort Steven just corrected you on. Real facts are inconvenient to you.
 
monk said:
World Debt Clocks
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
Canada's National Debt Clock : The Canadian Taxpayers Federation
The United Kingdom National Debt Clock 2017 Counter >> nationaldebtclock.co.uk
China National Debt Clock :: National Debt Clocks
Russia National Debt Clock :: National Debt Clocks
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Those are all facts. However, their presentation is a bit misleading. First is that each of them (well, the three that I looked at) insists on a "your share of the debt" as if somehow each of us will be asked for a cheque. We won't be. The other problem is that while debt rises, there's no mention of the fact that the economy expands. The two are to an extent connected. If I owe $5,000 and make only $25,000 a year that's a lot worse than if I owe $10,000 but make $100,000 a year.

I'm not saying that the size of various national debts aren't important - just that offering the dollar amount of the debt alone doesn't really give a fair picture.
 
revsdd said:
Those are all facts. However, their presentation is a bit misleading. First is that each of them (well, the three that I looked at) insists on a "your share of the debt" as if somehow each of us will be asked for a cheque. We won't be. The other problem is that while debt rises, there's no mention of the fact that the economy expands. The two are to an extent connected. If I owe $5,000 and make only $25,000 a year that's a lot worse than if I owe $10,000 but make $100,000 a year.

I'm not saying that the size of various national debts aren't important - just that offering the dollar amount of the debt alone doesn't really give a fair picture.
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I don't actually think it's "worse"... just harder for the debter to manage, but not morally worse.
 
Kimmio said:
I don't actually think it's "worse"... just harder for the debter to manage, but not morally worse.
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That's the context in which I used the word "worse." In the sense of more difficult to pay off. It wasn't a moral judgement.
 
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