dreamerman
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TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?
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As Graeme states ... perhaps in time we will see them all as tin men ... facetious, or just facetiae? All wearing masques as apropos ...
The Shining as fakes! If one doesn't question all things ... how would we know different, or the nature of divined things ... split into fore and agin ...
Kind 'a like quantum statistics if not biased by mankind! Just a thought appears to do it in some cases ... sometimes not ... if knowledge, wisdom and thought are denied. I'm still searching for the stuff denied ... isn't that a deviate Job ...
The Shining as fakes! If one doesn't question all things ... how would we know different, or the nature of divined things ... split into fore and agin ...
Kind 'a like quantum statistics if not biased by mankind! Just a thought appears to do it in some cases ... sometimes not ... if knowledge, wisdom and thought are denied. I'm still searching for the stuff denied ... isn't that a deviate Job ...
Pontifex Geronimo 13
#walkaway
Neo
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Wow, this guy is worse than Airclean for putting words into the mouth of God. A "praying president"? What a joke. Trump only cares about money, I thought that was pretty clear. If anything, I see Trump creating an "American Taliban" out of the alt right winged Christians. Pretty scary stuff.
I do see something good coming out of Trump's fledgling dictatorship, however, and that is that he may wake Americans up from their complacency. Other than that... war, pollution, suffering and above all, more money for the very rich of Americans.
Graeme Decarie
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to talk about individual presidents is a waste of time. The united States is horribly corrupt and driven by greed. And that goes back to 1776. Trump, disgusting though he may be, is not the the man who has invaded 70 countries since 1945, and killed millions of people. I have no doubt he's capable of it. But he hasn't done it yet. He is not the man who created a U.S. with the worst social services in the developed world.
The U.S. is corrupt, racist, murderous, and run by billionaires to benefit billionaires. (And Canada is a lot more racist than we like to think. And Canada is a yapping dog, panting for the favour of American billionaires.)
Trump is a symptom of the problem. That's all he is. The whole system is corrupt, murderous, greedy, And if Trump were to disappear tomorrow that would still be true.
As for the media, I did a great deal of work in it, and I knew a great many media people. They are dismayed at the lying and propaganda in our news media. The notion that it is getting its act together is pure nonsense. It's actually getting worse.
Two days ago, the CBC lead story was that it has tracked down a tax haven IN CANADA. That means it operates under Canadian law - and it means that the prime minister of Canada knows all about it. Wealthy Canadians have been stuffing millions, maybe billions, into it to avoid taxes. And they've been doing this at a cost to us of many billions in tax havens all over the world for years. That's why our hospitals are underfunded. That's why governments have to go into deficit in most years. That's why we suffer as much poverty as we do.
Did you see that story in your newspaper? It didn't appear in New Brunswick. I'm sure it didn't appear in The Post. I haven't noticed it on commercial radio or TV.
The modern newspaper has been owned from the start by the very wealthy who have ALWAYS used it for propaganda. And it's getting worse, not better.
The U.S. has been killing people in the millions all over the world Trump didn't do that. (He hasn't had time, yet.) in fact, Empires have been murdering impoverishing, debasing societies all over the world as long as there have been empires. Canada has played a role - helping out the American empire in places like Afghanistan and latin America.
The problem is not Trump. The problem is us. All of us. We have allowed the rot to enter our societies. We have handed power over to our billionaires who have used that power to kill, debase, loot people all over the world. ( When you have a time, take a look at the record of Canadian mining companies in South America.)
I won't waste any more time talking about Trump. He's not the problem. He is a product of the problem. And the problem is the decay of morality, a decay that affects all of us, and that owes much of its ugliest features to the the greediest of our people - whose lackeys most of us vote for.
The U.S. is corrupt, racist, murderous, and run by billionaires to benefit billionaires. (And Canada is a lot more racist than we like to think. And Canada is a yapping dog, panting for the favour of American billionaires.)
Trump is a symptom of the problem. That's all he is. The whole system is corrupt, murderous, greedy, And if Trump were to disappear tomorrow that would still be true.
As for the media, I did a great deal of work in it, and I knew a great many media people. They are dismayed at the lying and propaganda in our news media. The notion that it is getting its act together is pure nonsense. It's actually getting worse.
Two days ago, the CBC lead story was that it has tracked down a tax haven IN CANADA. That means it operates under Canadian law - and it means that the prime minister of Canada knows all about it. Wealthy Canadians have been stuffing millions, maybe billions, into it to avoid taxes. And they've been doing this at a cost to us of many billions in tax havens all over the world for years. That's why our hospitals are underfunded. That's why governments have to go into deficit in most years. That's why we suffer as much poverty as we do.
Did you see that story in your newspaper? It didn't appear in New Brunswick. I'm sure it didn't appear in The Post. I haven't noticed it on commercial radio or TV.
The modern newspaper has been owned from the start by the very wealthy who have ALWAYS used it for propaganda. And it's getting worse, not better.
The U.S. has been killing people in the millions all over the world Trump didn't do that. (He hasn't had time, yet.) in fact, Empires have been murdering impoverishing, debasing societies all over the world as long as there have been empires. Canada has played a role - helping out the American empire in places like Afghanistan and latin America.
The problem is not Trump. The problem is us. All of us. We have allowed the rot to enter our societies. We have handed power over to our billionaires who have used that power to kill, debase, loot people all over the world. ( When you have a time, take a look at the record of Canadian mining companies in South America.)
I won't waste any more time talking about Trump. He's not the problem. He is a product of the problem. And the problem is the decay of morality, a decay that affects all of us, and that owes much of its ugliest features to the the greediest of our people - whose lackeys most of us vote for.
Pontifex Geronimo 13
#walkaway
I was thinking maybe we could just catch these things as they come up.
If Trump's team was colluding with the Russian government prior to the election - Trump is the Nixon/Watergate story, not Obama. Think about it. Trump is throwing out red herrings - and putting his foot in them.
I can be upset about underfunded Canadian hospitals, tax havens - AND still think the manifestation Trump is a far more serious symptom of our problems than other western leaders are.
The Trump saga ... The maga-saga, lol...is pretty entertaining. He manages to infuriate me and make me ROFL within a 5 min span. That's kind of crazy. He has taken the boring out of politics and given it an Extreme Make-over (not falling for the smoke and mirrors but I am entertained). But have you ever read his Twitter threads? Some funny people on them. The "Life is a Cabaret" approach to resisting him at least helps us not sink into depression over it.
If Obama has broken the law, then Trump should be required to state which laws were broken and what evidence they have.
There are circumstances that may have warranted a "Lawful Interception" such as under FISA (Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act) established by Congress in 1978 and authorized by the Chief Justice of the United States to designate seven district court judges to review applications for warrants in cases of national security investigations. Usually a foreign national or someone acting as an agent on behalf of a foreign country.
Trumps affiliation with Russia is well known by now....possibly there was an ongoing investigation for reasons we wouldn't know and the wiretap was on Putin, which led to Trump to believe he was the one being wiretapped.
Or Trump has no evidence and just wants to create another news story that forces the media to talk about it, while he seems to evade being held accountable for any sensationalist remark he makes.
Graeme Decarie
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every major leader (and a couple of minor ones) in the world for the last 70 years has advocated nuclear weapons. The still do.
Not one has made any significant effort to stop this.
That's insane. It's insane when Trump does it, when Netanyahu does it, when Putin does it, and even when Jimmy Carter does it.If we have zealots running round to keep this and build more - it doesn't matter who they are. Trump is a hell of a dangerous man to be advocating more nuclear weapons. But he's not different from the rest. And, off hand, I can't think of any Canadian leader who has ever raised this issue.
Yes, Trump is a lout. Yes, he's dangerous. Yes, he's irresponsible. Alas! He's more the rule than the exception. Get over it. Trump did not kill over millions Iraqis. Bush did that. Trump did not kill 7 or 8 million Vietnamese. John Kennedy began that. ( what great man, and how we all loved him.) Trump did not murder 300,000 Guatemalans. His father ran that show. Britain produced generations of rulers who murdered and looted.
You can, if you like, assassinate Trump. But that will get you nowhere His replacement will be, like most of his predecessors, a killer Because that's what the American social and political system puts forward for leaders -and so they do in other countries, as well.
Trump is the product of a system that churns out people like him. The system - the powerful and irresponsible billionaires, the corrupt politicians. the general ignorance and long -standing prejudices of the American people are the system that produce a Trump. Replace him, and you will give rise to another homicidal leader - more dignified but just as evil and destructive.
In fact, I would add another evil factor - the churches. They have played a leading role in glorifying the delusion that people like to call patriotism. The result is a strong sense in the US that it is God's chosen nation. (The British empire was based on a similar idiocy).
To see Trump as the problem is rather like cleaning the highway from Montreal to Toronto with a toothbrush.
Not one has made any significant effort to stop this.
That's insane. It's insane when Trump does it, when Netanyahu does it, when Putin does it, and even when Jimmy Carter does it.If we have zealots running round to keep this and build more - it doesn't matter who they are. Trump is a hell of a dangerous man to be advocating more nuclear weapons. But he's not different from the rest. And, off hand, I can't think of any Canadian leader who has ever raised this issue.
Yes, Trump is a lout. Yes, he's dangerous. Yes, he's irresponsible. Alas! He's more the rule than the exception. Get over it. Trump did not kill over millions Iraqis. Bush did that. Trump did not kill 7 or 8 million Vietnamese. John Kennedy began that. ( what great man, and how we all loved him.) Trump did not murder 300,000 Guatemalans. His father ran that show. Britain produced generations of rulers who murdered and looted.
You can, if you like, assassinate Trump. But that will get you nowhere His replacement will be, like most of his predecessors, a killer Because that's what the American social and political system puts forward for leaders -and so they do in other countries, as well.
Trump is the product of a system that churns out people like him. The system - the powerful and irresponsible billionaires, the corrupt politicians. the general ignorance and long -standing prejudices of the American people are the system that produce a Trump. Replace him, and you will give rise to another homicidal leader - more dignified but just as evil and destructive.
In fact, I would add another evil factor - the churches. They have played a leading role in glorifying the delusion that people like to call patriotism. The result is a strong sense in the US that it is God's chosen nation. (The British empire was based on a similar idiocy).
To see Trump as the problem is rather like cleaning the highway from Montreal to Toronto with a toothbrush.
Well, there's a job opening at "The Apprentice". I'd be happy for everyone if he filled it and got out of this POTUS gig.
Another problem is people are too self absorbed to see that hating on Trump won't get them anywhere. I do not think he is Caligula. He's not Hitler although I am not sure where some of his advisors are ideologically. But he has dangerous temper tantrums and 4 a.m. Tweet storms - considering his position (he seems to forget he's POTUS during those Twitter rants). Graeme - people, I think, do recognize that Trump is not the only problem but he is not the solution to all of our problems and I think understanding his personality is an important part of attempting to clean up our problems.
Job opening? Did Schwarzenegger give up?
Yeah. Low ratings did him in. Didn't you read the tweet Trump made? It was quite a statement. It was shortly before the tweet about Obama supposedly wiretapping him and calling Obama bad or sick and Nixonian. I seriously don't think he realizes he's not a private citizen, that he's POTUS now - and if 17 agencies agree that Russia interfered with the election, and that a surprising number of his close circle had conversations with the same Russian diplomat and others - maybe it's not "fake news" - and maybe he's accountable to answer for the allegations, being president and all.
I don't hate him. He's like a teenager who pranked his way into a serious job - and didn't really consider what would happen if he actually got the job. I just think he should go back to his old job.
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Mrs.Anteater
Just keep going....
If I believed would believe this prophesy was true, it would turn me right into an atheist.
Trump has been talking about becoming president for a long time ( like a little boy's dream) , except that he had the money to pay his way in. Shocking, that these religious nuts supported him with their magic bowl.
What was that video? What did I watch? I feel dirty. I need a shower. He really comes of as a creepy cultish nutcase.
Isn't there a verse in the Bible about telling people what their itching ears want to hear?
I don't think the fruits of the Spirit are economic prosperity and gated security.
Mrs. anteater already said so but it's no secret that Trump has wanted to be president for a very long time.
Isn't there a verse in the Bible about telling people what their itching ears want to hear?
I don't think the fruits of the Spirit are economic prosperity and gated security.
Mrs. anteater already said so but it's no secret that Trump has wanted to be president for a very long time.
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If you are in a position of power, one does not have to think about their rants and excessive shows of passion ... this will catch up with them later in space time ( a metaphysical arrangement with entities we do not understand). A pseudonym of Golden Balls in discipleship to what else ... Golden Roué's? Tis Moses' creation by absence ...
Does indicate that mortals have a mother lode of learning to do ...
Pontifex Geronimo 13
#walkaway
The reason you can say that is because if you attend church, it is one that chooses to never share the gospel. I only follow the god who says what I want him to, if it was your idea (God) to elect trump, I quit!
March 5, 2017 sermon
http://admin.mediafusionapp.com/mediaFusion/player.php?playerId=c4d8366&channel=30#.WL1jQutfOrW
If it was God's will that Trump be elected... if... there's still a place to consider just why that might be. It doesn't necessarily mean that God is blessing America.