TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

[Graeme Decarie]

No doubt wha t you say is true. Both Americans and Canadians are subjected to heavy and sophisticated propaganda, largely through their news media. But that has nothing to do with it. Hillary knows what the truth is. In fact, she is one of the chief producers of the propaganda that 'justifies' her support of killing.
Northwind - you may well be right. But we don't know that yet. In any case, the possibility that Trump might kill ,is scarcely a reason to pick Clinton.
Remember - what we're watching is the final and absolute collapse of American democracy. There is no possible good or right outcome to all this. Control of the U.S. is fully in the hands of billionaires. The game is over.

 

[Luce NDs]

I would say the majority of the American people support most of the wars they become involved in. In retrospect they sometimes lament (Iraq war)..... during the initial engagement of war....not so much. Both Clinton and Trump are Americans. Canadians on the other hand are just blind as to what their government is doing that supports war or we choose to ignore it.

All is fair in love and war --- some ancient adage that we cling to!

 

[Waterfall]

No doubt wha t you say is true. Both Americans and Canadians are subjected to heavy and sophisticated propaganda, largely through their news media. But that has nothing to do with it. Hillary knows what the truth is.

So did Churchill, I'm hoping that what she knows will be an advantage to change the system.

 

[Waterfall]

Control of the U.S. is fully in the hands of billionaires.

When was it not?

 

[Graeme Decarie]

It was once less so. The turning point came with Reagan. Then came the philosophic enshrinement of the right of big business to be absolutely free of any government regulation whatever - and of any taxes. The greed was always there. But it's worse; it's respectable; it's admired, and it has enormous powers of propaganda at its service.
Mind you, you're still right because much of that was in place a century and more ago.

 

[Waterfall]

It was once less so. The turning point came with Reagan. Then came the philosophic enshrinement of the right of big business to be absolutely free of any government regulation whatever - and of any taxes. The greed was always there. But it's worse; it's respectable; it's admired, and it has enormous powers of propaganda at its service.
Mind you, you're still right because much of that was in place a century and more ago.

Well that was the american dream wasn't it? Except everyone wanted it to be them and not the other guy.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

Yes. That sums it up.

 

[Ritafee]

As an example, while I'm an anti-theist, I agree on many social issues with UCCan members. The average UCCan member has a moral compass that points more in the direction mine does, than some of our more fundamentalist members. So it really can't be argued that people are arriving to conclusions because Jesus, when the non-religious are arriving a the same conclusions more reliably than other Christians are.

Seizing monies by taxation power redistributing them or politically supporting programs that do so - Not my idea of Christian.

Government always works by force, and compulsion - Not my idea of Christian.

At the ballot box voters seek to deploy force - by marshaling a majority - to force candidate/policies - Not my idea of Christian

Loving our neighbor by spending other people’s money at gunpoint (i.e., “government”) - Not my idea of a Christian.

Christian Love - which Jesus says fulfills all the law - does not, and cannot, work by force. - My idea of a Christian.

No party can own my idea of a Christian’s vote.

My idea of a Christian could never vote for a civil ruler who is seeking the power to compel people to war.

My idea of a Christian never endorses a human kingdom of power seeking to subject by force those who oppose it.

If you are looking for a real Christian you won't find one in a political candidate.

My idea of a Christian - NON - Voter.

I wonder how many of the people that abstain from voting do so because they ARE Christian?

 

[Jaebius]

Just read on Twitter that a President Trump will appoint Dr. Ben Carson to his cabinet.

 

[Luce NDs]

Prop aG Andean processes even supported Hitler but his hubris blinded his real vision of what this meant in Indo-European relations as reverse svasti ... windmills turning against the flows of illusions that people support the poor when thye tend to lean towards powerfully numinous billionaires ... such attachments can indicate a need to affiliate with such people!

I'D rater not deal with the rich or the determined to be powerful ... then what I deal with is weak whip-po'r-willed words ... that top dogs don't understand and thus deny from their fields of curios sense!

This leads to very strong naïveté ...

 

[Graeme Decarie]

The thought of Ben Carson in the cabinet doesn't thrill me nearly as much as some might think.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

This conversation is funny. Especially the chia-pet prediction (possibly as reliable as any other at this point).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/on-a-scale-of-1-to-10-how-much-should-democrats-panic/

 

[Jaebius]

This conversation is funny. Especially the chia-pet prediction (possibly as reliable as any other at this point).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/on-a-scale-of-1-to-10-how-much-should-democrats-panic/

I didn't find it particularly amusing.

 

[Luce NDs]

I didn't find it particularly amusing.

Funny ... the one-way you approach it gives an image ...

 

[Jaebius]

Funny ... the one-way you approach it gives an image ...

Different people f indifferent hints amusing Luce, and there's nothing wrong with at. Indeed, I'd say it's quite a good thing. Does my support of Donald Trump and Kimmio's fear and hatred of him influence our comedic tastes at his particular time? Yes, I would imagine it does.

 

[Luce NDs]

One should recognize the isolated destructiveness ... alas for hundreds of year we have been led not to contemplate such items as too close to prayer and preyers being exposed as anti communal ... imagine not wishing general sharing, like:

1. Food
2. Shelter
3. Clothing
4. Education
5. Healing
6. Moderate caring
7. and flashes in the dark as the Shadow friend states in blind silence, saying nothing as that character is astounded by human brutality towards the lesser casted chits ... cephanth heaven something to fish for as Cephas, whetted cos ?

They could be fertility enlightening and thus the graceful fall of pride ... a general put down? I may be a different kind of levity that you expect from light handedness ... lets see how it comes out (the other side catharsis) ... in the wash? We haven't seen the NDs yet ...

Alchemical cover-up in general of both cheeks? As ole mediums are separate and in the val are to be ignored ... as they are hostile to polity ...

Thus Percé val or the cut of soul ... can whet the imagination for what's out there ...

 

[Inukshuk]

We should all be concerned about a Trump presidency. In a tv interview he was asked if he would cut government departments ~ his reply "Environmental Protection, what they do is a disgrace. Every week they come out with new regulations." Trump was specifically asked who would protect the environment? He replied "We'll be fine with the environment. We can leave a little bit, but you can't destroy businesses." He will specifically get rid of the EPA’s Clean Power Plan, Clean Water Rule, and ground-level ozone regulation. He feels climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese
To quote a Native American saying " When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."

 

[Graeme Decarie]

well , interesting. But Clinton has been pursing the same policy. So did Harper. So is Trudeau.

 

[Jaebius]

We should all be concerned about a Trump presidency. In a tv interview he was asked if he would cut government departments ~ his reply "Environmental Protection, what they do is a disgrace. Every week they come out with new regulations." Trump was specifically asked who would protect the environment? He replied "We'll be fine with the environment. We can leave a little bit, but you can't destroy businesses." He will specifically get rid of the EPA’s Clean Power Plan, Clean Water Rule, and ground-level ozone regulation. He feels climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese
To quote a Native American saying " When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."

The problem with the EPA is that it enforces too many rules and regulations on businesses. This stifles their growth and sends them packing to places like Mexico and China. America's becoming great again relies upon the destruction of the EPA. Well-called Mr. Trump.

 

[GordW]

The problem with the EPA is that it enforces too many rules and regulations on businesses. This stifles their growth and sends them packing to places like Mexico and China. America's becoming great again relies upon the destruction of the EPA. Well-called Mr. Trump.

COmplete and utter BS. Stop drinking the kool-aid.