Do NOT be Deceived, God is NOT Mocked -

Welcome to Wondercafe2!

A community where we discuss, share, and have some fun together. Join today and become a part of it!

Register Log in
People who chose to reject God and His word and claim to be Christians shame themselves by using a name that was meant to be a follower and believer of Jesus Christ and His word ------A believer who has received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour and has a personal relationship with Him -----

Anyone who has not received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour and has not the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is belongs to the god of this world who is Satan ----anyone who doesn't want to believe that is deceiving themselves -----and all that is Scriptural -----


2 choices ---we choose ---


Image result for God or satan
 
Northwind -----your quote -----I rest my case. :sneaky::ROFLMAO: I'll pray for you unsafe.

unsafe says
Your prayers will go unanswered there Northwind if you have not the Holy Spirit indwelling in you --- Sin turns God's face from unbelievers and He hears not-- John 9:31---God's Words there Northwind ---Not Mine---- your prayers go to Satan ----so no thanks----Satan has no place in my life --I keep Satan at bay -----I call on Grace --:angel: ---just saying




Related image
 
unsafe said:
People who chose to reject God and His word and claim to be Christians shame themselves by using a name that was meant to be a follower and believer of Jesus Christ and His word ------A believer who has received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour and has a personal relationship with Him -----

Anyone who has not received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour and has not the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is belongs to the god of this world who is Satan ----anyone who doesn't want to believe that is deceiving themselves -----and all that is Scriptural -----


2 choices ---we choose ---


Image result for God or satan
Click to expand...
Satan is the accuser dedicated to making persons feel guilty. Jesus rejects the satanic accusations. By the Holy Spirit we are liberated for living service to creature and creation. One task is the overcoming of the devil - that which divides humanity from God.

It is difficult to see ourselves as we are. Brothers and sisters help us discover our errors. Not as judgement. As opportunity for growth to maturity in the way of God revealed in the gospel of Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit.

We are one in Christ whether you like it or not.

George
 
GeoFee -----If your saying that all people who are sinners and who have not received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour are One in Christ ----you are in Fact stating False Doctrine and Wrongly Dividing the Word -----and giving people false hope -----and that is a Period +++++++

Show me one scripture that says sinners are one in Christ ------if that is the case then Jesus died and shed His Blood for nothing -----
 
unsafe said:
GeoFee -----If your saying that all people who are sinners and who have not received Jesus as their Lord and Saviour are One in Christ ----you are in Fact stating False Doctrine and Wrongly Dividing the Word -----and giving people false hope -----and that is a Period +++++++

Show me one scripture that says sinners are one in Christ ------if that is the case then Jesus died and shed His Blood for nothing -----
Click to expand...
Very much appreciate the brevity and clarity of this post. Beginning a quiet evening with Barbara, my companion. Will respond in a while.
 
@unsafe You do not know me well enough to judge me as you do. You are playing god now. Go along your self-righteous way now.
 
On the cross Jesus forgives those who murder him. All are forgiven, without exception. Those who repent of their sin are led forward by the Holy Spirit. Those who do not repent will reap as they sow. The whole while watched over by the gracious love of God, ready to welcome home the soul which turns from self-will to God’s will.

Every human being is made as the image of God. To be sure it is distorted and obscured by the many layers of difference we take for the truth of our being. Love overcomes the barriers of difference. As it is written: “Love can build a bridge between your heart and mine.” God seeks to unite us. Resist your adversary the devil (divider) and he will flee from you.
 
GeoFee said:
On the cross Jesus forgives those who murder him. All are forgiven, without exception.
Click to expand...
"Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."

Yes, this is an all-forgiving Jesus we see on the cross. The same one who told us we are to forgive each other seventy times seven.
 
GeoFee -----your quote -------
On the cross Jesus forgives those who murder him. All are forgiven, without exception. Those who repent of their sin are led forward by the Holy Spirit. Those who do not repent will reap as they sow. The whole while watched over by the gracious love of God, ready to welcome home the soul which turns from self-will to God’s will.

Every human being is made as the image of God. To be sure it is distorted and obscured by the many layers of difference we take for the truth of our being. Love overcomes the barriers of difference. As it is written: “Love can build a bridge between your heart and mine.” God seeks to unite us. Resist your adversary the devil (divider) and he will flee from you.


unsafe says ----
Thanks for coming back to answer GeoFee ----but here is the thing -----I need a scripture from you to back up what you believe there GeoFee ------Give me the scripture that says all sinners are one with Christ ------all you have said in this statement you make above here has nothing to do with sinners being one with Christ --

What does one with Christ mean that is the Question

This Scripture tells us ------

Romans 6:5-7 (EXB)
5 Christ died, and we have been ·joined with [united with; grafted into] him ·by dying too [or by participating in his death; L in the likeness of his death]. So we will also be ·joined with [united with; grafted into] him by rising from the dead as he did.

6 We know that our old ·life [self; L person] died with Christ on the cross so that our ·sinful selves [or body controlled by sin; L body of sin] would have no power over us and we would not be slaves to sin.

7 Anyone who has died is ·made free [justified; declared righteous] from ·sin’s control [L sin].


unsafe says ----
So here we see GeoFee we have to die with Christ to be grafted into Him ---Then we are raised to a New Life Like Christ ---which is our Born Again experience which means our Old Sinful Nature there GeoFee has been removed and we are no longer Sinners we are Saints and have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit ---Sin has no more power over us there GeoFee -----

-people who are not Born Again are still sinners and never can be ONE WITH CHRIST ---until they die with Christ and change their Nature ------- and we all have free will to choose to accept or reject the offer -------

So GeoFee I have given you a Scripture to back up my Claim ----Now ---you do the same ---Give me a Scripture that says Sinners are one in Christ -------Please and thank you -----
 
Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Isn't this supposed to be how you can tell if someone is the real deal? I'm waiting to actually see this as proof.
 
Kimmo says----I think I get how this works.


Accuser Accuser - Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology Online


Satan is styled the "accuser of the brethren" ( Revelation 12:10 . Compare Job 1:6 ; Zechariah 3:1 ), as seeking to uphold his influence among men by bringing false charges against Christians, with the view of weakening their influence and injuring the cause with which they are identified. He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30 Acts 23:35 ; 24:8 ; Acts 25:16 Acts 25:18 , in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.

These dictionary topics are from
M.G. Easton M.A., D.D., Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Third Edition,
published by Thomas Nelson, 1897. Public Domain, copy freely. indicates this entry was also found in Baker's Evangelical Dictionary
Bibliography Information
Easton, Matthew George. "Entry for Accuser". "Easton's Bible Dictionary". .
is styled the "accuser of the brethren" ( Revelation 12:10 . Compare Job 1:6 ; Zechariah 3:1 ), as seeking to uphold his influence among men by bringing false charges against Christians, with the view of weakening their influence and injuring the cause with which they are identified. He was regarded by the Jews as the accuser of men before God, laying to their charge the violations of the law of which they were guilty, and demanding their punishment. The same Greek word, rendered "accuser," is found in John 8:10 (but omitted in the Revised Version); Acts 23:30 Acts 23:35 ; 24:8 ; Acts 25:16 Acts 25:18 , in all of which places it is used of one who brings a charge against another.

These dictionary topics are from
M.G. Easton M.A., D.D., Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Third Edition,
published by Thomas Nelson, 1897. Public Domain, copy freely. indicates this entry was also found in Baker's Evangelical Dictionary
Bibliography Information
Easton, Matthew George. "Entry for Accuser". "Easton's Bible Dictionary". .


image.jpeg

Redirect Notice

goo.gl
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top