Vaccine passports and the constitution

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Waterfall

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I'm glad they're including the dates the vaccine was given....because 6 months after it was given, it probably should not be used as a "pass".
 

Luce NDs

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Would it be proper to update as that would enter information that is presently future oriented ...

A great deal of folk do not like prescient considerations that take the future under observation ... it passes like feel-X leaving an insecure sapience!

The wisdom of drips and nerds ...
 

ChemGal

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I'm glad they're including the dates the vaccine was given....because 6 months after it was given, it probably should not be used as a "pass".
Even without showing it, just as the ios app had to be updated to change it so it read 3rd doses as verified they could do an update so that if the most recent dose was too many months ago it scans as unverified. No new codes would be necessary for scanning purposes. I don't think my QR code actually changed from my 2nd dose to 3rd, just the written info that goes along with it.
 

Northwind

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Hopefully they can either update what information is there without giving away too much or just do 2 versions (I think Quebec is doing that) where the current one is good enough for in province for the long term.

I guess too when I saw the dates are shown along with the vaccine, that's on the info only with the QR code. Scanning the QR code doesn't show much, basically verified or not, name and I think date of birth.

Ours only shows a check mark and the word vaccinated along with our name. We need to show a photo ID along with it. It will be interesting to see what BC does.
 

Luce NDs

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Chaos and anarchy resume resonance without purchase of atonement from thoe that don't comprehend the understanding thereof of the MS is ... as Cist ... a bubble!
 

BetteTheRed

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Sisters and I had lunch today. The two of them had a QR code (one paper, one phone), which I have acquired but not got to my phone, so I used my 2nd vaccine cert, on my phone. And each had to have ID, and I keep my driver's license in my phone case, so I never have to worry about not having ID, and my phone is bright red, and I'm almost always quite conscious of where it is. It was quick and painless. Maybe COVID will just have to be a booster for a few years (maybe in combo with the flu shot?) and something you have to do before December 31st.

I wish I understood vaccine hesitancy better. Why would you NOT want to be free to have a meal out, go to a church service, go see a play or a movie?
 

Mendalla

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I keep my driver's license in my phone case
Soon, you'll be able to keep it on your phone. Digital ID is coming to Ontario soon (the app might even be out now).

Randall Munroe having some fun with vaccine passports:

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ChemGal

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Sisters and I had lunch today. The two of them had a QR code (one paper, one phone), which I have acquired but not got to my phone, so I used my 2nd vaccine cert, on my phone. And each had to have ID, and I keep my driver's license in my phone case, so I never have to worry about not having ID, and my phone is bright red, and I'm almost always quite conscious of where it is. It was quick and painless. Maybe COVID will just have to be a booster for a few years (maybe in combo with the flu shot?) and something you have to do before December 31st.

I wish I understood vaccine hesitancy better. Why would you NOT want to be free to have a meal out, go to a church service, go see a play or a movie?
Although even with being triple dosed I don't really feel free to do those things. I think with the 3rd dose I will feel more comfortable with low cases. Here we're about double where we were at this time last year. Doesn't help either with knowing isolation could interfere with specialists appointments in Nov that I have waited a long time for.
 

BetteTheRed

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This is all well and good until the day your battery dies at an inconvenient moment (and yeah, one should always have a cable and battery pack handy, but...), and you can't pay, can't prove who you are, nothing.

And at least once every couple of weeks, someone's phone "paying app" fails, and occasionally, they have neither card nor cash with them. Quel embarrassing!

Chemgal, I've done those things, carefully. Church is double vaxxed, masked, distanced, but a little closer, every second row of pews open, instead of every three, so have a reasonable capacity. Restaurants, if inside, require vax cert; outside nothing, but it's gettin' a bit cold for that. Local theatre had tickets available in a spaced out format (leaving two blank seats between groups of attendees) and you have to pre-book. Same with movie theatre, except that you could remove your mask once seated, not so at live theatre. Both theatre and cinema required vaccine cert. Have to wear your mask everywhere inside (with exceptions for rude stupidity) until you "get to your seat".
 

ChemGal

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This is all well and good until the day your battery dies at an inconvenient moment (and yeah, one should always have a cable and battery pack handy, but...), and you can't pay, can't prove who you are, nothing.

And at least once every couple of weeks, someone's phone "paying app" fails, and occasionally, they have neither card nor cash with them. Quel embarrassing!

Chemgal, I've done those things, carefully. Church is double vaxxed, masked, distanced, but a little closer, every second row of pews open, instead of every three, so have a reasonable capacity. Restaurants, if inside, require vax cert; outside nothing, but it's gettin' a bit cold for that. Local theatre had tickets available in a spaced out format (leaving two blank seats between groups of attendees) and you have to pre-book. Same with movie theatre, except that you could remove your mask once seated, not so at live theatre. Both theatre and cinema required vaccine cert. Have to wear your mask everywhere inside (with exceptions for rude stupidity) until you "get to your seat".
ON is also in a better situation overall.
 

ChemGal

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As for the passport it's where I like options. Phone is typically handy. Wallet cards are a good option as a backup but can be annoying to dig out. I do like the idea of a keychain one with QR code only, no other info on it which is dependent on an app working.
 

Mendalla

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And at least once every couple of weeks, someone's phone "paying app" fails
I have not started using pay apps yet. Kind of stopped carrying cash, but haven't gone that far. Even if I do, I'll still keep a card or two (I have a credit and a debit) in my wallet for backup. I'm also a bit anal about charging my phone. My last one's battery was getting really bad at the end so I kind of got in the habit of plugging it in overnight automatically without even checking the level.
 

Luce NDs

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There was an article on CBC internet news this morning about relations of vaccine, antibodies and other hematological cell development that involves the immune system, genetics and immunological understanding ...

It seemed technically reasonable ... but as tech is science it is not prescient ably available to those with closed and stone walled psyches ... and that is how it all closes down as the dirt falls i the hole thing ... thus great divides and voids stated in a way that the confined thereof ... will not know what they rejected ...

That is enough to raise insecurity in my way of processing ... enough to cause turnaround on a one way path ... allowing what goes up may come down on yah! Fecundity ...
 

ninj

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The vaccine isn't experimental, nor is it untested. I won't try to explain it, but there are many reputable sources that do...

 

Mendalla

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Note that it is out of date, though. Pfizer is now approved, not just for emergency use. That happened in August.

 

ninj

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Yes I did notice that, but as mentioned, it isn't hard to find good sources for information.
 

Luce NDs

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Information flows on ... only the collective unconsciously reject it!

(always expect exceptions in what people desired not to know ... it is just how it went)
 
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