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Taxpayer paid public employees are ready to punish Canadians with a "summer of discontent" in order to get wages, benefits and working conditions egregiously out of line with what private sector employees get.

My initial reaction -- End Public Sector Unions Immediately.

Am I wrong?
 
WhyCzar said:
Taxpayer paid public employees are ready to punish Canadians with a "summer of discontent" in order to get wages, benefits and working conditions egregiously out of line with what private sector employees get.

My initial reaction -- End Public Sector Unions Immediately.

Am I wrong?
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On the issue of hybrid work, they are being unrealistic. I'm expected to be in the office 5 days out of every ten (and I actually do more). My son in the Ottawa tech industry is 3 days out of every 5. And that's the norm for the private sector from what I hear. I see no valid reason why the civil service should be treated differently.
 
The Civil Service is a sector that absolutely should be unionized and bargain collectively. The government is not an especially good employer (Which is why their IT is so f-ing incompetent. No one who actually knows what they are doing wants to work in government IT.) Dad was involved in at least one strike and he was in a bargaining unit that rarely went on strike in those days (PSAC in the eighties). That doesn't mean I can't suggest they are out of touch when it comes to hybrid work.
 
It would give elected officials something to beat on for the sake of polity ... and individualization as they are driven out ...

Do politicians know such stuff? Potentially not! They tend to emotional ends ... not intelligent!

It is said there is no end to it and it is out there ... beyond all that is ... inherent?
 
WhyCzar said:
Can they "strike a bargain" from home?
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I imagine a lot of negotiations of all sorts have been happening over Zoom and Teams (and maybe even old school conference calls) in recent years, but I also suspect it still works better in person for some things. So "maybe" would be my answer.
 
Somebody would be required t pay for it ... imagine who would like public services for nothing ... like protection for bankruptcy in corporate concerns of going down in flames because of emotional spending ... just because it was fun as the "hari cat" syndrome ... the congestion was a fur ball ... few knew where they were headed for ...

Reminds me of the hyperbole about a toilet and "heh" who would drain the swamp ... hymnself? Recall a toilet on fire is like a harlot being hushed ... Cha 'r' lot?

Put your bum there and it could get browned ... may go with that pudding from UK, an enigma as bred ... SOP?
 
With the election of Justin Trudeau in 2015, the federal bureaucracy started to grow very rapidly.

By 2022 it had grown 27 percentage points, which put it nine percentage points ahead of population growth.

Note that this rapid growth of the bureaucracy started well before COVID struck.

Under Justin Trudeau, Canada has faced large and growing fiscal deficits.

The 2023 federal budget was supposed to address that with a wide range of policies, but none mandates reductions in the size of the bureaucracy.

Anyone who has lived through the last three decades, as the prime minister has, should know about the important role reductions in government employment played in eliminating the deficits of the government.

The credibility and likely the success of Trudeau’s own policies suffer by the absence of such reductions.

Reducing the size of the bureaucracy has at least two beneficial effects.

Most obvious is the saving of bureaucrats’ salaries and benefits, which in 2021, according to a study by the Fraser Institute, were 8.5 per cent higher than those of their private-sector counterparts.

financialpost.com

Opinion: The one big growth industry of the Trudeau years has been bureaucracy

Federal employment has had its ups and downs, but under Justin Trudeau, the direction has only been up. Read more.
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So, who would you like to have less of? What department of the federal government is overperforming?
 
Several issues here. First, the return to office should be based on the work that is done. Tasks that benefit from once a week team meetings should be in office one day a week. Work where team members share in office related tasks and online tasks should divide the days in office including one day of doing online work in office in a fair way. New members should be in office daily long enough to be competent in their work. Team leaders or managers should be responsible for deciding home and office splits. What should guide the split is how to best complete the work that is required.

The growth of the public service is a concern but not as much as the ethics and competence of managers. Audits by the office of the auditor general have determined there is resistance to improvements in service delivery across several sectors of the public service. Governments have failed to require goal setting and achievement of its management based on the work of the auditor general.

I advocate for a universal national wealth dividend payable weekly or monthly that would replace the AOS, GST rebates, and carbon tax rebates which would eliminate the need of staff for those programs. I would like some of that staff to be reassigned to CRA audits of wealthy individuals and corporations.
 
jimkenney12 said:
The growth of the public service is a concern but not as much as the ethics and competence of managers. Audits by the office of the auditor general have determined there is resistance to improvements in service delivery across several sectors of the public service. Governments have failed to require goal setting and achievement of its management based on the work of the auditor general.
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And lets be honest, that intransigence is costing us a lot of capable employees (and, lets be honest, managers) when they realize that private industry is more open to improving service delivery and to rewarding good, hard work rather than entrenched sinecures. I know a good engineer who worked for the feds as a student intern but left after graduation even though they would have kept them on. Just did not like the work environment. Being subject to the whims and ways of politicians and public opinion probably doesn't help, either.
 
Mendalla said:
And lets be honest, that intransigence is costing us a lot of capable employees (and, lets be honest, managers) when they realize that private industry is more open to improving service delivery and to rewarding good, hard work rather than entrenched sinecures. I know a good engineer who worked for the feds as a student intern but left after graduation even though they would have kept them on. Just did not like the work environment. Being subject to the whims and ways of politicians and public opinion probably doesn't help, either.
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Doesn't this boil down to lack of intelligence which the determined deny frivolously, or maybe because of excessive emotions? There is a sector of humanity that believes in emotions alone ... and there they stand autonomous ...
 
Correct me if I am wrong.
The size of the CRA is already increased to 60,000 thousand.
The size of the Canadian Military is only 68,000.
 
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