Receiving the Holy Spirit - John 20:19-23 and Acts 2

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Mendalla

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I was looking at Working Preacher to see what was on deck as far as lectionary readings and discovered that tomorrow is Pentecost Sunday. Interestingly, the discussion on the site is about John 20:19-23, which ends with Jesus breathing on the disciples with the words, "“Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” So apparently, Jesus is giving the gift of the Spirit here.


Which is then something of a contrast with the more dramatic account in Acts 2:


And here's the commentary from Working Preacher, reflecting on how the John passage relates to Pentecost and gives us a different perspective on the coming of the Holy Spirit.


So let's try kicking off a revival of BPoTW with a discussion of these passages about receiving the Holy Spirit and what it means in the stories and in our modern religious lives.

And that's probably how I'll do this. Rather than trying to figure out something, since I've hit on a lot of the passages that interest me, I'll see what's happening in the church calendar and lectionary and draw from that. Not to say I won't do other things, but it's a way to keep it going more steadily even when I can't come up with something on my own.

As always, do read the passages in question and keep the discussion to them and your reactions to them. I am not averse to moving discussion that strays off topic. Be mindful of the values in your interactions here, too. Not everyone sees the Holy Spirit and its role in life and faith the same way and there needs to respect even where there is not agreement.

Here is the sticky post at the top of this forum that gives the purpose and rules of the forum.

 
This phenomenon is described in other practices as well, but includes Christianity. It's the idea of  transmission, a gift of awareness beyond words, or as I like to think of it, an upgrade. If you have the starter pack.
Not sure of the source, but it seems a good enough synopsis.
Transmitting Awakened Spirit Consciousness — Integral Christian Network Transmitting Awakened Spirit Consciousness — Integral Christian Network
 
My Spiritual view

So this is from the Commentary posted

Breath and Spirit​

“When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit’” (20:22).
In contrast to our typical Pentecost scene, with “the rush of a violent wind” (Acts 2:2), the Spirit arrives with more intimacy and sensuality in John’s Gospel. Not with tongues of fire, but with warm breath upon skin.

I say -----What you have here in John 20:22 ---is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Disciples ---

You need to go back to John 14 AMP where Jesus tells them--- His Father will send them a Helper

Role of the Spirit​

16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper (Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor—Counselor, Strengthener, Standby), to be with you forever—

17 the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive [and take to its heart] because it does not see Him or know Him,
but you know Him because He (the Holy Spirit) remains with you continually and will be in you.


So in John 20 ---they are Receiving the indwelling of the Holy Spirit ---so first they Receive the Holy Spirit -through the Breath of Christ breathing upon them here because Jesus hasn't ascended to the Father yet ---- only after He ascends does the Holy Spirit indwell the Believer immediately when they Receive Jesus as their Lord and Saviour -----


The Greek word for Received in this scripture is

Lexical Summary
lambanó: To take, receive, obtain

actively lay hold of , to take or receive," (actively) accepting what is available (offered).
take in, unto , to take to oneself:

So Here =====they have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in John 20 ---

This indwelling of the Holy Spirit is to help them with spiritual discernment and Preaching the real truth of the Gospel to the Jewish Nation -----

In Acts 2---at Pentecost

This is the Infilling of the Holy Spirit -----

The Day of Pentecost​

2 When the day Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place,

2 and suddenly a sound came from heaven like a rushing violent wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.

3 There appeared to them tongues resembling fire, which were being distributed [among them], and they rested on each one of them

4 And they were all filled [that is, diffused throughout their being] with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues (different languages), as the Spirit was giving them the ability to speak out [clearly and appropriately].

The contrast is that these were 2 separate events ---the indwelling and then the infilling ----

The infilling of the Holy Spirit is given to people to preform certain tasks that God has entrusted to the person to preform -----

In the Old Testament the Holy Spirit mostly came upon the person and on occasion indwelled the person but then withdrew -----the Holy Spirit was never given permanently in the Old Testament -----

I liked the reference in the commentary where the Preacher takes the breath that Jesus breaths on the Disciples back to where God breaths the breath of life into Adam -----very neatly done -----
 
Only the author of Luke/Acts seems to know the PEntecost story as we have it. Matthew and Mark have no account of the giving of the Holy SPirit (and little reference to the concept of the giving of the HOly SPirit as a discrete event IIRC). John, as @Mendalla has already pointed out, has the SPirit being breathed onto the disciples on Easter Day (in the evening). [I remember some discussion about how we might preach that verse on Easter 2 {John 20 is always the reading on Easter 2} back in 202 when breathing on people was heavily frowned upon] Paul never really refers to the Pentecost event, but does talk about the power of the Holy Spirit working in the community.

REally it reminds us that there are multiple voices and understanding in Scripture. I like the Acts story for its drama and the reminder that the story speaks in many languages. However I like the fact that John links it so clearly to the Easter event. The beauty of varied voices is is allows us to drawn out different aspects of the story.

THis image was in my FB memories today, talks about the muli-lingual aspect of the Acts story:
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