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jimkenney12 said:
I could see punishing parents for providing their children with the means to cause harm for others.
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Yes, the case in the US comes to mind where a 6 year old shot his teacher. He seemed to have a disability that included some pretty major behavioural issues. In that case why have guns in the house at all let alone one not in a locked safe with the combo/key well kept from him?
 
Holding parents responsible for the crimes of their children is just shifting the blame, which does not address the problem. This only makes it much easier for children to misbehave as they know that their parents will take the blame and not themselves.
 
Nebulous said:
Holding parents responsible for the crimes of their children is just shifting the blame, which does not address the problem. This only makes it much easier for children to misbehave as they know that their parents will take the blame and not themselves.
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Parents are just carriers of old hard cast rites ... these go on because we cannot get beyond that until apocalypse ... c'est fini? Recall it is just word(s) and some just will not have the understanding that's there subtle ... underneath the word as smeared!
 
When parents clearly had a role in the harm caused by their children, they should have some responsibility for the enabling they did
 
Focusing on punishing the parents ignores a whole lot of the picture. A six year old shooting a teacher is a sign of a huge problem, not just bad parents. Look at the culture that child where that child lives. At the same time, many six year olds live in that culture with bad parents who don't shoot others.

A twelve year old who "acts out" with whatever bad behaviour is a sign there is a problem somewhere.

Blaming parents is too easy and accomplishes little to nothing.
 
Holding parents accountable until what age?

They will hold themselves accountable forever, probably, but at what age are they no longer culpable? I think a lot of a haunting interview I heard years ago on CBC with the mother of Marc Lepine, the perpetrator of the Montreal massacre.
 
As long as they continue enabling harmful behaviour by their child, but responsible more as accessories to the criminal behaviour than as parents when the children are adults.
 
I have a question for the parents here. How many of your children did things that were stupid or that went against your teachings? How many of you did things that would shock your parents? How much control did your parents have over you? How much control did you have over your children?

It is very simplistic to blame parents and to hold them responsible in many cases.
 
Will we always be in culpable for our children if we are ignorant of the facts in the docs?

Thus as suffering a common missing point ... there are these shadowy holes in existence and in belief that something exists when illusions are so easily assumed in the head as d' light ...

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Northwind said:
I have a question for the parents here. How many of your children did things that were stupid or that went against your teachings? How many of you did things that would shock your parents? How much control did your parents have over you? How much control did you have over your children?

It is very simplistic to blame parents and to hold them responsible in many cases.
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I would mainly focus on parents responsible for enabling bad behaviour. Buying a new car for a child who just trashed their previous car by bad driving. Having guns accessible to a violent child. Lying to protect them from consequences for harmful actions.
 
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Punishing parents ... the pain of living under their hard roué and vectors? The idea is to beat 'elle out of them so the broad based wisdom is lost ... with vast consequence!

An out of the box spontaneity ... thus extenuating expanse ...
 
My siblings and I gave our parents some causes for concern as we grew up. It was a different time and culture so some of tings would be considered strange nowadays. My sister married to get away from parental controls. My brother got his girlfriend pregnant and as he was younger than 21 he couldn't marry without parental permission. At the third pregnancy the parents gave up and told him to do whatever he was going to do! I tried the 'good kid' role most of the time but then left home and country at 21 with very little warning to my parents.

My own kids have provided challenges including a pregnancy and a senseless, impulsive crime spree.

Every aspect of a child's behaviour isn't caused by poor parenting. I'm thinking of the people who adopted babies and later discovered that they had FAS.
 
jimkenney12 said:
I would mainly focus on parents responsible for enabling bad behaviour. Buying a new car for a child who just trashed their previous car by bad driving. Having guns accessible to a violent child. Lying to protect them from consequences for harmful actions.
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That's fair. I agree.
 
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