Martin Luther - What do people think today?

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Mendalla

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Mrs. M and I were watching a good two bio of Martin Luther over the last couple nights. Someone had posted it, possibly dubiously, to Youtube where Mrs. M found it.

It did a good job of highlighting both his positives (e.g. how he moved Christianity from a faith where the church stood as an intermediary between humans and God to one where we could have a direct relationship with the divine) and his negatives, e.g. how his often vitriolic rhetoric helped start centuries of Protestant-Catholic conflict and promoted vicious anti-Semitism. His legacy includes the wild diversity of Protestant denominations, but also the Holocaust (Hitler and the Nazis used Luther's attacks on the Jews in their own propaganda).

So when we look at Martin Luther in all his complexity, how do we see him in the modern world? We likely would not have the society we do today without him. but that includes both positives and negatives. So should we celebrate his legacy, or look at it with a more critical eye? We cannot repudiate it. Most of us here to some degree owe our faith, and our ability to pursue our own ideas about faith and God, to his important first steps in breaking the power of the church over those parts of people's lives. But can we find a way to deal with both aspects of Luther, to recognize his human fallibility and complexity rather than simply idolizing him as a hero of the faith and glossing over the dark side?
 

Mendalla

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And believe me, when I learned about Luther in Sunday School, it was very much about him as the hero who stood up to the authorities through the 95 Theses and his defense of his writing at the Diet of Worms. I did not learn about his anti-Semitism until much later, probably high school or university.
 

Luce NDs

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We are infiltrated with alien personality constructs ... and a lot of depleted domains ... power of denial?

Relax it was just a hated, pass in thought ...
 
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