Luke's Take on the Talents (Luke 19: 11-27)

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BetteTheRed said:
I consider both of them ghastly, with the Matthew the less ghastly.
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Thus allowing for two types of Christians; winners and losers!

It is a duality that can develop into a deux of a thing ... and people will fight over clouds ... as high ground! ESsteam ...
 
Luce NDs said:
Thus allowing for two types of Christians; winners and losers!

It is a duality that can develop into a deux of a thing ... and people will fight over clouds ... as high ground! ESsteam ...
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Our interpretations of the parables don't need to be polarizing.
 
paradox3 said:
Our interpretations of the parables don't need to be polarizing.
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Yet do they???? I am a student of strange and lost tongues ... and declared to be crazy as God's linguistics are based on English spinning's.

It appears to me that classic scripture is based on much more ancient communication processes ... yet the past and future are denied in total interest in the presence ...

This does away with prophets, foresight, mythic and other visionaries to coming potentialities ... a type of blinding activity to vast sacraments that are out there ... thus suffering oblivious effects ... oblivion because we refuse to look into such spatial volumes? It is like psyche, mind or soul cursed by secular powers ... no abstracts! Thus unimaginable ... epistemological seizure ... establishmentarianism ...

Of course there remans trans anti dis establishmentarianism ... as a complex issue in the back and both movements ... secular pumping up of the essence? Reciprocal inflations ... for flat Eire ... amounting to nothing ... the great abyss my maternal grandfather called nothing but love (when all thought is vacant)!

The very essence of what blew over with Gabriel ... said to be a dark angel ... Eve Angel -ist!

As I drift into this in the fall of Dais ... I sense sinking ... to a point ... and then everything disappears from my comprehension ... Black-out????

Can you encounter something when in that psychotic state? Mental disruption ... rest for some of us from the winning rights? Someday the escape is permanent and those "left behind" may have lost something worthwhile in displaced skills ...

However the past is history and doomed to ... well-you-know! Heresy to Gnostic, and thus cursed intellect ... it has to go ... Jim R. sang about it ... as that other man ... part of the missing pieces in the great chord!

It is a great hum dinger ...
 
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In v. 21, the third servant tells the nobleman he is afraid of him because he is a harsh man. He takes what he did not deposit and reaps what he did not sow.

If the nobleman is meant to be Jesus, this is not a very flattering assessment, is it? Would any of us describe Jesus in these terms?

Perhaps the parable teaches that we are to act in faith, not in judgment of God. (Interesting interpretation which I found on Reddit. New to me.)
 
paradox3 said:
In v. 21, the third servant tells the nobleman he is afraid of him because he is a harsh man. He takes what he did not deposit and reaps what he did not sow.

If the nobleman is meant to be Jesus, this is not a very flattering assessment, is it? Would any of us describe Jesus in these terms?

Perhaps the parable teaches that we are to act in faith, not in judgment of God. (Interesting interpretation which I found on Reddit. New to me.)
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Compare what a trumped up winning god would state regarding a humble reply! Thus implosion and that desending sensation ...
 
paradox3 said:
Our interpretations of the parables don't need to be polarizing.
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Agreed, much of the time, but in this case, I agree with Luce.

You can either applaud the position of persons 1 and 2 (the doublers) or person 3 (the one faithful to the Jewish rule about charging interest), but not both.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Agreed, much of the time, but in this case, I agree with Luce.

You can either applaud the position of persons 1 and 2 (the doublers) or person 3 (the one faithful to the Jewish rule about charging interest), but not both.
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Yes although the third servant's motivation is questionable. There is no suggestion in the parable that his motivation was honorable.
 
Discussions in other places (including from the pulpit last Sunday) suggest that a Jewish audience would have understood the third person's position as most honorable in respect to the Jewish law about not charging interest to fellow Jews.
 
What does the parable mean if the honorable one has everything taken away from him?

This is a baffling parable. So many angles to look at it!
 
paradox3 said:
What does the parable mean if the honorable one has everything taken away from him?

This is a baffling parable. So many angles to look at it!
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It's awful. We read the Ralph Milton version of the Matthew passage on Sunday, where the favour is definitely Servant 3.

But of course, being a selective lectionary story bible, I doubt it even deals with either the Matthew consequence, one servant condemned to hell for doubting their Employer, or the more chaotic slaughter in the Luke passage.
 
BetteTheRed said:
It's awful. We read the Ralph Milton version of the Matthew passage on Sunday, where the favour is definitely Servant 3.

But of course, being a selective lectionary story bible, I doubt it even deals with either the Matthew consequence, one servant condemned to hell for doubting their Employer, or the more chaotic slaughter in the Luke passage.
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In both parables, the judgment seems harsh and even arbitrary to me. Luke is worse for sure.
 
If it is secular expect it to be baffling and chaotic ... it is a time of experience for us coupled with the gift of reproduction of destructive means and mediums ... only the story will remain and be assumed as being a myth ... for few believe anything laid out by executive power.

Look what executive power does to CEO's, politicians, churchmen, etc. Corrupting influence???? Thus something must collapse, descend or drift into follies ...

Physical life is mostly without a psyche response ... sentience characterized? It is a mental picture ... fuzzy ...
 
Everyone knows this idiom, right,?

"The early bird gets the worm."

A former minister of mine compared overanalyzing this phrase to overanalyzing a parable.

We understand that the early bird is the point of the idiom. We don't even consider the worm's point of view.
 
paradox3 said:
Everyone knows this idiom, right,?

"The early bird gets the worm."

A former minister of mine compared overanalyzing this phrase to overanalyzing a parable.

We understand that the early bird is the point of the idiom. We don't even consider the worm's point of view.
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From below ... that understanding support systems that are temporal ... get over it ... we're leaving here soon! Why?

Figure it out that the gift was prodigal ... wasted ... on travel, etc. Maybe we should have just enjoyed the view from where we we established before the powers arrived ... brutes ... from God knows where ...

Heavenly bodies are a query!
 
paradox3 said:
Everyone knows this idiom, right,?

"The early bird gets the worm."

A former minister of mine compared overanalyzing this phrase to overanalyzing a parable.

We understand that the early bird is the point of the idiom. We don't even consider the worm's point of view.
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Hmmm, that's interesting, but still we have Jesus explaining what he meant to his disciples in a couple of parables. Were the disciples not learned enough to figure these things out?
According to the example you present education shouldn't be a requirement and yet Jesus answers his disciples when asked why he speaks in parables ( Mathew 13:10-12)
"Why do you speak to the people in parables? He replied, "Because the knowledge of the Kingdom of heaven has been given to you and not to them."

What's that about?
 
Waterfall said:
"Why do you speak to the people in parables? He replied, "Because the knowledge of the Kingdom of heaven has been given to you and not to them."

What's that about?
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Some things are better explained by storytelling?
 
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