Is President Elect TRUMP's Legacy Media Defying MAGA/MAHA Movement Here To Stay?

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Our government should not be responding to his demands right now. They should not just do what he says after January. While there are probably improvements that can be made, his policies will affect us. They need to take a page from the Mexican president's book and stand up to him. Bullies only bully harder when their bullying works.
 
Counterpoint: Something like 70% (or so) of Canada's trade is with the USA. And we can't turn that around in three months short of a trade deal with someone like China who is just as problematic. Our government needs to start worrying, and maybe acting, now. Being proactive rather than reactive might just salvage some Canadian jobs. Yes, he might back down if we stand firm. But even standing up to him needs to start now, not in January. Waiting to see what he really does could be disastrous given our economy is already fairly weak.

Hopefully, Trump finally realizes what economists are already saying: That a tariff regime like he wants will ultimately sink his economy. But this is Trump and listening to experts is not his strong suit, else Kennedy would not be in charge of health instead of, you know, an actual doctor as they had with Fauci.
 
Northwind said:
Our government should not be responding to his demands right now. They should not just do what he says after January. While there are probably improvements that can be made, his policies will affect us. They need to take a page from the Mexican president's book and stand up to him. Bullies only bully harder when their bullying works.
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I will lose respect for our leaders if they "kiss the ring" just so he likes them.
 
Mendalla said:
Counterpoint: Something like 70% (or so) of Canada's trade is with the USA. And we can't turn that around in three months short of a trade deal with someone like China who is just as problematic. Our government needs to start worrying, and maybe acting, now. Being proactive rather than reactive might just salvage some Canadian jobs. Yes, he might back down if we stand firm. But even standing up to him needs to start now, not in January. Waiting to see what he really does could be disastrous given our economy is already fairly weak.

Hopefully, Trump finally realizes what economists are already saying: That a tariff regime like he wants will ultimately sink his economy. But this is Trump and listening to experts is not his strong suit, else Kennedy would not be in charge of health instead of, you know, an actual doctor as they had with Fauci.
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I'm sure they would miss Quebec's aluminum trade and a few others. Pretty essential for the states to have it, Quebec is their main supplier
 
Waterfall said:
I'm sure they would miss Quebec's aluminum trade and a few others. Pretty essential for the states to have it
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Not mention access to cheap parts from places like Mexico and China. Basically, Trump's tariffs, if implemented as he claimed in the campaign, would push them back into pretty serious inflation and probably force the Fed to start raising rates (assuming Trump doesn't emulate Erdogan and try to directly control the Fed, which was an utter disaster for Turkey).
 
I fully agree @Mendalla. Of course the government needs to be proactive and come up with a good response. Canadian leaders have always had to essentially dance with the US in that relationship. Look cooperative but not too cooperative. This isn't a normal US government (whatever that means) and so now creative responses may be required.

Plan ahead. Don't just do what he says. Respond from a place of strength. I wasn't suggesting oppositional behaviour. The Mexican president didn't accept his lies. She presented her perspective on what happened and gave some perspective on what it's like in Mexico. We can do something similar.

The US is not the victim here. Each country is impacted by the others and yes, there are things we can do to fix those. The US has to also take responsibility for their own actions and not blame others. Of course, their next "leader" is incapable of taking responsibility so there will be challenges.
 
Trudeau wisely makes the preemptive move of visiting Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Trump expresses a willingness to negotiate the conditions of his proposed tariffs against Canadian goods--negotiations that are the whole point of Trump's threat:

 
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Mystic said:
Trudeau wisely makes the preemptive move of visiting Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Trump expresses a willingness to negotiate the conditions of his proposed tariffs against Canadian goods--negotiations that are the whole point of Trump's threat:

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Boarder friends shouldn't use threats....civil dialogue is called for, not grandstanding. IMO
 
Waterfall said:
Boarder friends shouldn't use threats....civil dialogue is called for, not grandstanding. IMO
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I agree. But Trump would probably reply that "friendly dialogue' alone has not succeeded in preventative action and he would point to the new eagerness of Canada and Mexico to finally take action.
 
Mystic said:
I agree. But Trump would probably reply that "friendly dialogue' alone has not succeeded in preventative action and he would point to the new eagerness of Canada and Mexico to finally take action.
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Like you, he's a narcissist. Instead of insisting he knows how to heal, he thinks he the best at deals. He's terrible at them. He used threats to rip up NAFTA and replace it with the USMCA, Canada and Mexico maneuvered themselves into largely more favourable positions than what they had under NAFTA. Canada and Mexico laughed a little and Trump was incensed. Now he wants a do-over.

So Trudeau goes there to say some nice things to Trump. Chances are, he'll cave all over again. He's susceptible to simple charm. Trudeau knows this.
 
This thread is about the imminent return of Mr. Trump as POTUS. We recognize that there are strong feelings and opinions surrounding Mr. Trump, and the discussion can be heated. However, there is no need for insults. We would respectfully ask that discussion remain civil, without labeling one another as 'narcissist' or other psychological terms.

Also, be advised that any recurrence of a phrase such as 'house-broken clucking canuck' WILL result in disciplinary action. Watch your wording, all, please and thank you.
 
Is well developed and deep marketing part of this trade, economy? Are there alien opioid receptions ... like down under and folded in ... so as to cause sacred highs? Some people get a great kick out of watching a' man fall from a tree of wisdom ... all over a snack like the apple of the Lord's Aye ... HEH! Stacked swell ... some Ephraim's are proud of it ... some get really inebriated and addicted to such conditions ... expect in tense X and nothing to be explained about it ... so selves can be well cranked and screwed up ... reason? Doubtful that it is good for all ... and the powers like to break everything ... and everything does come around ...

Ye gods ...
 
When one considers the mule is among us ... how does one avoid the stubborn market draw. I know of one study by police agencies that identified the powerfully rich as the best able to finance corrupt drug operations ... how does one get around such delightful nonsense to the rich and powerful if ... they like it?

Is that some what stupid, or just the wrong kind of rich? Could they possibly reason out the difference ... unlikely ... why?

Because the officials say it is best not to know ... otherwise:
  • don't look
  • don't listen
  • don't speak of it
Alternately monkey about in harry states until it hits yah ... the pole-ice state ... KOHL? At least the insane excitement decreases ... look what happens at concerts and gatherings ... folk just get the the point that can't hold or stand themselves in crowds ... why? We don't know ... very few proper icons ...

Something mist? Yup the n-1 ... deux of a code ... 01? What's the mist ONE ... displaced? It is all in the word if grasped ... something to toil at not just believe at first sight ...
 
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Also, be advised that any recurrence of a phrase such as 'house-broken clucking canuck' WILL result in disciplinary action. Watch your wording, all, please and thank you.
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Please no. Nobody has any clue what a "house-broken clucking canuck" actually is. If anyone tries insults like that against me, please let them stand as the self-owns they are.

If it makes you feel any better, read my previous post as both Trump and Berserk exhibit narcissistic-like tendencies. The majority of WC2 will agree, because it's accurate. If you're going to allow claims of medical miracles in exchange for specific prayers possibly in specific "holy" locations on the back of zero evidence, then the observation that they are ambulance-chasing scam artists with a desperate need to be admired should also be allowed.
 
Mendalla said:
The Trump crowd basically alleges that fentanyl enters Canada through our ports and then is transshipped across the border. My understanding was that the DEA and border security do not regard our border as a major drug problem but I would have to do some Googling to figure out where I saw that. Trump wouldn't care anyhow since he would see them as part of the Democratic Deep State and therefore unreliable.
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THios assumes that just because Trump said the reason for tariffs is border security means the real reason for the tariffs is border security. It may be. Or maybe not. Border security is something that allows a sense of national emergency and thus can be done by executive order.
 
chansen said:
Please no. Nobody has any clue what a "house-broken clucking canuck" actually is. If anyone tries insults like that against me, please let them stand as the self-owns they are.

If it makes you feel any better, read my previous post as both Trump and Berserk exhibit narcissistic-like tendencies. The majority of WC2 will agree, because it's accurate. If you're going to allow claims of medical miracles in exchange for specific prayers possibly in specific "holy" locations on the back of zero evidence, then the observation that they are ambulance-chasing scam artists with a desperate need to be admired should also be allowed.
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You nailed it you silly Canuque ... and the alternate still remains where he wanted to be ... virtue unknown and thus it wasn't (as incarnate is sometimes defined) for those that study word and linguistics cautiously and not just over excitedly ... Alas one does need to be brute to be always a winner .. even if it is not very humble and gentile ... then is Berserk a bit like insane and mad in crowds ... so as to walk all over everybody?

Hang back folk, it down one can erect a pit trap that will be like hell to those winners when the entire thing comes down ... even BIg John couldn't hold up and thus the dream of an underworld place of vast relief form ... Gnosh-ite ... the root of the tree of wisdom ... absorbing the right dirt ... those determined cannot find where the seamy parts are ... das dah divine thing ... virtue unseen ... nothing to it ... and powers are rightly scared of such apparitions ... in tens X?

Ankh's Know ... or believe harder ... could be entered into a manuscript ... the lack of knowledge encountered in high spirits!
 
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