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chansen
Still waiting...
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Well, Breitbart isn't talking about the tanker attacks being a false flag that I can see. Thank God for Infowars, where the attacks are a "globalist" false flag. Maybe France? I can not make this s**t up.
I don't know the other sites. @blackbelt1961 we need your "sources".
I don't know the other sites. @blackbelt1961 we need your "sources".
Ritafee
Is Being Human
The Mainstream Media Is Marching Us Into War With Iran - Truthdig
Following alleged attacks in the Gulf of Oman, the political press appears unwilling to challenge the Trump administration's narrative.
www.truthdig.com
In a column published last month as the U.S. aggressively escalated military tensions with Iran and pushed the two nations to the brink of all-out war, The Intercept‘s Mehdi Hasan asked a straightforward question that remains relevant in the present: “Do U.S. reporters, anchors, and editors really want more Middle Eastern blood on their hands?”
“If not,” Hasan wrote, “they need to fix their rather credulous and increasingly hawkish coverage of Iran and the Trump administration—and fix it fast.”
Graeme Decarie
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I'd like to be called a kook on this.
I'd also like to know who's calling the shots. I don't think its Trump.
I'd also like to know who's calling the shots. I don't think its Trump.
Ritafee
Is Being Human
Henry Kissinger's book World Order is available on Amazon.
Mendalla
Happy headbanging ape!!
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As are, presumably, all of his books. And all of the books about him, positive and negative. They're a bookstore.
Ritafee
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5 days ago ... Amazon overtakes Google and Apple to become the world's most valuable brand
Mendalla
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Hope my mutual funds took note.
Apparently, they are hell to work for. My son won't touch them with a ten foot pole as a career option (in fact, he's quite happy at the much smaller Canadian tech firm where he's doing his co-op).
But that doesn't have much to do with the looming fiasco in the Persian Gulf.
Ritafee
Is Being Human
Amazon Web Services and Microsoft are now the two finalists to win the highly contested $10 billion contract for what is known as the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure, or JEDI. The deal, one of the largest federal contracts in U.S. history, would pay one company to provide cloud computing services in support of Defense Department operations around the world.
theintercept.com
Amazon Offered Job to Pentagon Official Involved With $10 Billion Contract It Sought
In chasing the JEDI contract with the U.S. government, Amazon allegedly negotiated signing bonuses and stock options with a DOD official.
theintercept.com
Ritafee
Is Being Human
“Cyber adversaries have become as serious a threat to U.S. military forces as the air, land, sea and undersea threats represented in operational testing for decades,”
“The continued development of advanced cyber intrusion techniques makes it likely that determined cyber adversaries can acquire a foothold in most (Department of Defense) networks, and could be in a position to degrade important DOD missions when and if they chose to,”
time.com
“The continued development of advanced cyber intrusion techniques makes it likely that determined cyber adversaries can acquire a foothold in most (Department of Defense) networks, and could be in a position to degrade important DOD missions when and if they chose to,”
This Is What World War III Will Look Like
An array of science-fiction-like technologies would likely make their debut
time.com
Mendalla
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Amazon Web Services and Microsoft are now the two finalists to win the highly contested $10 billion contract for what is known as the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure, or JEDI. The deal, one of the largest federal contracts in U.S. history, would pay one company to provide cloud computing services in support of Defense Department operations around the world.
Amazon Offered Job to Pentagon Official Involved With $10 Billion Contract It Sought
In chasing the JEDI contract with the U.S. government, Amazon allegedly negotiated signing bonuses and stock options with a DOD official.
From a geek standpoint,. it's interesting that it's those two. Wonder what happened to Google. Though they are number three after those two so perhaps they bid and just naturally fell off. I would go MS if I was the Pentagon. I am honestly not sure about Amazon's long-term prospects or ability to support a something of that scale.
But that is an aside and not really what you're getting at.
Ritafee
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I am not even sure of what I am trying to get at ... just noticing how media propaganda and cyber (in) security seem to be a driving force towards ability to wage war without 'boots on the ground' so to speak?
Trump asks NYT to disclose sources that US is ramping up cyber attacks on Russia.
Graeme Decarie
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Opinion | Gwynne Dyer: Hopefully Iran is behind tanker attacks because the alternatives are worse
Attacks carefully avoided human casualties, so if they were Iranian, what was their goal?
This is the most intelligent analysis of the Iran crisis I have seen. It is also the only one that explains why things as useless as limpet mines were used.
Ritafee
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Be Skeptical of Alleged Naval Provocations - Antiwar.com Original
Maybe they did; maybe they didn't. That’s not the point. Even if Iran did attack a couple tankers in the Gulf of Oman – as the Trump team assures us it - Maj. Danny Sjursen, USA (ret.) for Antiwar.com Original
original.antiwar.com
"Let us assume, then, that Iran was responsible for the attacks, after all. This still demands an understanding of the full context of the events. No doubt, Iran had the capability to sink the vessels, but didn’t. This implies that the attacks were likely a warning to US allies, that yes, America can impose brutal sanctions on Iran, but that the Islamic Republic, too, can affect the global economy and the free flow of Gulf oil. After all, the US is, arguably, engaged in veritable economic warfare against Iran, and threatening outright war on the daily. This despite the fact that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons and was – according to our own intelligence services – adhering to the Obama-negotiated nuclear deal. Can anyone really blame Iran for acting out and taking arguably defensive action in its geopolitical neighborhood?
The problem is that Americans seem inherently incapable of walking a mile in other countries’ shoes and considering the view from Tehran. A fair account of U.S.-Iranian relations over the last 70 or so years demonstrates that Washington was, more often than not, the aggressor. The CIA toppled a duly elected nationalist prime minister in 1953, replacing him with a brutal royal dictator. The US backed Iraq’s Saddam Hussein in his brutal invasion of the Islamic Republic from 1980-88 and even accidentally shot down a Iranian civilian airliner killing hundreds. For this, President Bush the elder refused even to apologize. Few Americans remember this unsavory history, but I assure you that few in Iran can forget it.
That said, now is a time for measured caution, to take pause before jumping to conclusions or taking hasty action. The opposite course rarely ends well as we saw in Cuba and Vietnam. There is still merit in diplomacy, that seemingly lost art. If Trump wants to be a true maverick, he’d override his more hawkish Iranophobe advisers – think Bolton and Pompeo – and use the tanker incidents to reset the relationship with Iran. Don’t count on it though – it seems the Donald will do anything that undoes Obama-era policies. It’s a pathology, after all, and it may even cause another unnecessary war. Stay tuned!"
Danny Sjursen is a retired US Army officer and regular contributor to Antiwar.com. His work has appeared in the LA Times, The Nation, Huff Post, The Hill, Salon, Truthdig, Tom Dispatch, among other publications. He served combat tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan and later taught history at his alma mater, West Point. He is the author of a memoir and critical analysis of the Iraq War, Ghostriders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge. Follow him on Twitter at @SkepticalVet.
Copyright 2019 Danny Sjursen
Be Skeptical of Alleged Naval Provocations - Antiwar.com Original
Maybe they did; maybe they didn't. That’s not the point. Even if Iran did attack a couple tankers in the Gulf of Oman – as the Trump team assures us it - Maj. Danny Sjursen, USA (ret.) for Antiwar.com Original
"Let us assume, then, that Iran was responsible for the attacks, after all. This still demands an understanding of the full context of the events. No doubt, Iran had the capability to sink the vessels, but didn’t. This implies that the attacks were likely a warning to US allies, that yes, America can impose brutal sanctions on Iran, but that the Islamic Republic, too, can affect the global economy and the free flow of Gulf oil. After all, the US is, arguably, engaged in veritable economic warfare against Iran, and threatening outright war on the daily. This despite the fact that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons and was – according to our own intelligence services – adhering to the Obama-negotiated nuclear deal. Can anyone really blame Iran for acting out and taking arguably defensive action in its geopolitical neighborhood?
The problem is that Americans seem inherently incapable of walking a mile in other countries’ shoes and considering the view from Tehran. A fair account of U.S.-Iranian relations over the last 70 or so years demonstrates that Washington was, more often than not, the aggressor. The CIA toppled a duly elected nationalist prime minister in 1953, replacing him with a brutal royal dictator. The US backed Iraq’s Saddam Hussein in his brutal invasion of the Islamic Republic from 1980-88 and even accidentally shot down a Iranian civilian airliner killing hundreds. For this, President Bush the elder refused even to apologize. Few Americans remember this unsavory history, but I assure you that few in Iran can forget it.
That said, now is a time for measured caution, to take pause before jumping to conclusions or taking hasty action. The opposite course rarely ends well as we saw in Cuba and Vietnam. There is still merit in diplomacy, that seemingly lost art. If Trump wants to be a true maverick, he’d override his more hawkish Iranophobe advisers – think Bolton and Pompeo – and use the tanker incidents to reset the relationship with Iran. Don’t count on it though – it seems the Donald will do anything that undoes Obama-era policies. It’s a pathology, after all, and it may even cause another unnecessary war. Stay tuned!"
Danny Sjursen is a retired US Army officer and regular contributor to Antiwar.com. His work has appeared in the LA Times, The Nation, Huff Post, The Hill, Salon, Truthdig, Tom Dispatch, among other publications. He served combat tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan and later taught history at his alma mater, West Point. He is the author of a memoir and critical analysis of the Iraq War, Ghostriders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge. Follow him on Twitter at @SkepticalVet.
Copyright 2019 Danny Sjursen
Did you expect a rational course of action? Thus stay tuned because the toones go on ... diplomacy is not a big thing with the business executive corps ... the corpse of the walking dead ... regarding the potential of seeing what is coming down the tubes. Reminds me of blind weather and unseen environmental concerns ... enough to whet and sharpen up a rare section of the paradigm! The others are dull bores ... no depth ...
In the US, Corporations are people...but like Zombies - the undead. Or iron footed giants that crush peasants under their feet.