Investigating the Spirit

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God has revealed through the Spirit God's things to those that love God.

The Spirit's God's instrument and agent to enlighten us.

In the missionaries' case, the Spirit worked when they were engaged in the work of preaching the Gospel.

Since their days, the revelation comes to us through the preaching based upon the missionaries' word.

This work of revealing salvation is done by the Spirit. She investigates all things, even God's depths. She's familiar with God's plans and thoughts. What she's discovered she discloses to us. God's depths where God's will for humanity's salvation lay hidden, the Spirit has made known to us.

Since the Spirit has access to God's secrets, she must be God. No one knows a person's depths except the person. No person can know the feelings of another unless that person reveals themself to them. Even so no one has, by searching, by examining, found out God, had access to God's plans and purposes; only the Spirit of God has that knowledge, and therefore can and does reveal God.

Christians haven't received the world's spirit. Theirs is rather the Spirit of God who has been bestowed upon them by God. The result is that Christians have gifts from God. Said gifts are included in Christ and realized through him. They're useful to Christians since the Spirit has opened their eyes to see God's favor.
 

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Sounds like a conspiracy to make the spirit into the essence of psyche as suppressed by brute powers during the attempted renaissance of classic mind sets ... vast question ... Able a' Tae?

Recall the heathens should not know what the powers are up to ... some word of a despot! Imagine the essence out of Shu ...

And "S" is for integral ... not for psychotic schizoids ... those deposed to adhering to the dark!

Is the dark permanent?
 

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Hi,
Christians haven't received the world's spirit.
Sorry. Christendom is deeply immersed in the spirit of this world. For the most part, Christian behaviour mirrors behaviour inspired and encouraged by the spirit of the age. Were the Holy Spirit to be allowed access to behaviour as well as belief things would be different.

George
 

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The Spirit of God wants to give deep knowledge of God to natural, carnal persons but they are unable to receive them. She wants to govern them in all things.

She leads gently against the flesh's shameful desires.
 

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against the flesh's shameful desires.

See, this takes me beyond my comfort level, human nature-wise.

I don't think that human sexual desire is innately, or intrinsically, or necessarily, "shameful". A prudish culture frightened primarily of women's sexual power is at the root of that, not "God", who fashioned us most perfectly in the womb.
 

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See, this takes me beyond my comfort level, human nature-wise.

I don't think that human sexual desire is innately, or intrinsically, or necessarily, "shameful". A prudish culture frightened primarily of women's sexual power is at the root of that, not "God", who fashioned us most perfectly in the womb.

Hmm... honestly not quite sure how you're reading "flesh's shameful desires" as "human sexual desire." I believe human sexual desire was a gift to humanity from God at creation and that it is to be used in God-honoring ways.
 

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Hi,
Sorry. Christendom is deeply immersed in the spirit of this world. For the most part, Christian behaviour mirrors behaviour inspired and encouraged by the spirit of the age. Were the Holy Spirit to be allowed access to behaviour as well as belief things would be different.

George

Agreed that Christians should be governed by the Spirit both in belief and action.
 

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What are the shameful desires then, Jae? Food and alcohol? Exercising to excess?

Anything which offends the character of the Spirit of God paradox3.

Here's one list from Scripture... "And the works of the flesh be open, which be fornication, uncleanness, unchastity, lechery, service of false gods, witchcrafts, enmities, strivings, indignations, wraths, chidings, dissensions, sects, envies, manslayings, drunken-nesses, unmeasurable eatings, and things like to these, which I say to you before, as I have told to you before, for they that do such things, shall not have the kingdom of God." - Galatians 5:19-21 (WYC).
 

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Anything which offends the character of the Spirit of God paradox3.

Here's one list from Scripture... "And the works of the flesh be open, which be fornication, uncleanness, unchastity, lechery, service of false gods, witchcrafts, enmities, strivings, indignations, wraths, chidings, dissensions, sects, envies, manslayings, drunken-nesses, unmeasurable eatings, and things like to these, which I say to you before, as I have told to you before, for they that do such things, shall not have the kingdom of God." - Galatians 5:19-21 (WYC).
Looks like the kingdom of god is going to be an empty spot. Maybe a few jewish refugees from third world countries ( as long as they follow the cosher rules of old, would qualify. ( refugees- because they are not so likely to overeat). But if cleanliness doesn ‘t mean in food consumption but in body cleanliness, the refugees might have trouble finding enough water to wash. Clearly, everyone overweight is disqualified here. That would be about 40-50 percent of the north american population. The other half gets disqualified by the other criteria.
But of course we know that jae is just kidding here, because he wants to get people going. Only blackbelt takes him seriously.
 

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The Spirit of God wants to give deep knowledge of God to natural, carnal persons but they are unable to receive them. She wants to govern them in all things.

She leads gently against the flesh's shameful desires.

I believe it is the other way about so that God's essence as a spell can learn something for an erroneous creaton ... peered into by heironicus monk! He placed a sad song about love gone while mind prevails ... a rare condition in the opinionated ... persona ... and indication of anthropomorphism?

It may masque the Mark situation ... that X on the soul ... as unknown entity! Pure myth ... and dark too ... as is myth ... mysterious and occult ... powers avoid it religiously as it indicates humble weakness ... Trump Card!
 

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See, this takes me beyond my comfort level, human nature-wise.

I don't think that human sexual desire is innately, or intrinsically, or necessarily, "shameful". A prudish culture frightened primarily of women's sexual power is at the root of that, not "God", who fashioned us most perfectly in the womb.

Tis innate as compared to the alternate ... explicate as a thorn in the R's! This is to get the undead on their way ... learn something of what you don;t know ... those that are familiar with the immortal don't need to learn? Thus the childish adage: "are we there yet?" Tis dubious ... as Thomas questioned even the apparition of light for holes ... protons about to rise as phoenix ... failed accounting as there was nun, or little con science ... under the ruse of follow the hart!

This killed the pale horse and it fell to the dark side ... unknown ... unseen ... the occult nature of a poly tech myth ... where the lions coincides in a instance (opposes generality)!

However; should we consider that we are presently mortal ... and the present will pass and become past! Time passes and causes change due to d/dt ... differentials in deep space ... windrift?

Mortals need to be staunched ... thus the arresting nature!
 
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Looks like the kingdom of god is going to be an empty spot. Maybe a few jewish refugees from third world countries ( as long as they follow the cosher rules of old, would qualify. ( refugees- because they are not so likely to overeat). But if cleanliness doesn ‘t mean in food consumption but in body cleanliness, the refugees might have trouble finding enough water to wash. Clearly, everyone overweight is disqualified here. That would be about 40-50 percent of the north american population. The other half gets disqualified by the other criteria.
But of course we know that jae is just kidding here, because he wants to get people going. Only blackbelt takes him seriously.

It's like I'm mortal in a world where morals may convert to toadies ... they bare all in rings! Leaves a man's ears ringing ... with the buzz ... deep space radiance? Hawking forms in the bazaar ...
 

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"Avarice" as to control everything even God as love & intellect ... bare souls are best ... thus extermination!

The waste piles up as rejected thoughts encrypted in myths ... truth hurts!
 

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Mrs.Anteater------ unsafe says ------your reading the scripture with worldly Glasses -------understanding what the lust of the flesh or works of the flesh means spiritually is needed to understand what Jae is meaning by posting this scripture ------

Jae said:
Anything which offends the character of the Spirit of God paradox3.

Here's one list from Scripture... "And the works of the flesh be open, which be fornication, uncleanness, unchastity, lechery, service of false gods, witchcrafts, enmities, strivings, indignations, wraths, chidings, dissensions, sects, envies, manslayings, drunken-nesses, unmeasurable eatings, and things like to these, which I say to you before, as I have told to you before, for they that do such things, shall not have the kingdom of God." - Galatians 5:19-21 (WYC).


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---Eve had lust of the eyes even though she was created in God's image -----Satan has a way of presenting things that appeal to our eyes -----The Fruit to Eve looked very good and enticing and she went for it -------

So it is with our Sin Nature ----Satan is very crafty and can make things look enticing to try or do so that it pulls us into committing a sin --Adultery happens because of the works of the flesh -----what the eye beholds is beautiful and then desire takes over in the mind and what you think about constantly your body will then move toward acting it out ------Our Body only moves to our thoughts ----- Greed --uncleanness ---Greek word ----read below here if interested --and other works of the flesh will take hold in our thoughts and we will move toward doing what we know we shouldn't but we do anyway

Strong's Greek: 167. ἀκαθαρσία (akatharsia) -- uncleanness



unsafe says
So the works of the flesh are those desires that our Sin Nature pulls in with our senses and emotions ------and it goes against what God's will is for us -----


unsafe says ---God has provided a way of escape from this -----He Sent His Only Son To Die On The Cross to free us from these chains that shackle us and keep us in Bondage to our earthly desires ------When we receive God's free gift of Salvation we become more aware of how the enemy works and we have Grace who is Jesus to call upon to help us in our weak moments of being enticed -----God showers us with Grace upon Grace ----and this gives us the ability to resist the temptation -------Without Christ in us we humans are totally available to the works of the flesh ------We humans have this concept that we can resist all temptations on our own power but we are only fooling ourselves -----Greed ---Drunkenness ---sexual desires outside of marriage -----and all the rest that we humans do without restraints are not from God but from Satan who puts our desires in front of us and says ---OH COME ON ----Give it a try it won't hurt you to try it ---or a good one is if it feels good and doesn't hurt anyone just do it you only live once -------

Here is the thing with you only live once -----you may not like where you end up forever spiritually when you leave this once in a lifetime life -----




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Looks like the kingdom of god is going to be an empty spot. Maybe a few jewish refugees from third world countries ( as long as they follow the cosher rules of old, would qualify. ( refugees- because they are not so likely to overeat). But if cleanliness doesn ‘t mean in food consumption but in body cleanliness, the refugees might have trouble finding enough water to wash. Clearly, everyone overweight is disqualified here. That would be about 40-50 percent of the north american population. The other half gets disqualified by the other criteria.
But of course we know that jae is just kidding here, because he wants to get people going. Only blackbelt takes him seriously.
enjoy the heat :p
 

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Does anyone besides me find it extremely off-putting how very callous some folks are about the idea of a soul in eternal torment?

In other words, bb, I think you have cruel, very human, very poor, theology. Your god is a grotesque monster.

Bette, first of all I was joking with the post because the post was Joaking aswell

secondly, hell does exist, whether you want to believe it or not
 
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