Ignore function

[Northwind]

I asked this in the US Election thread then realized it wasn't the right spot for it. I'm asking here in a separate spot which is a better spot for an answer.

I wish there was a way to not see blocked participants responses to my posts. I LOVE not seeing the posts of our two resident trolls. I wish I didn't see his reactions in particular.

Is that something that can happen @Mendalla ?

That being said, I won't be looking for responses by our resident "pastor" just because he reacts to what I wrote. In an ideal world, blocking would mean the blocked would not see the blockers posts, like on FB.

I have to ignore Jae right now. I don't want to see anything from him until I've had a break. I'm not lifting the ignore until I can ignore him without that help and until I can be polite. It may take awhile. At least until after Tuesday.

I will of course ignore him if he does react to one of my comments. It would help if there was a way that he couldn't react to my comments. I realize that is probably not possible

I've at least gotten this off my chest.

 

[paradox3]

Yes, I hear you Northwind.

The Ignore function has its limitations for sure.

But I am not complaining @Mendalla. I am glad we have it available

 

[Mendalla]

The Ignore is the out of box Ignore function and it is pretty rudimentary according to many admins. Suggestions for a more robust "Block" that would stop the other person from seeing you and more thoroughly conceal their content remain unfulfilled to date. I can revisit whether there are add-ons that provide a more robust Ignore but we are kind of stuck with what Xenforo provides otherwise.

 

[Luce NDs]

It once was said that the triune pig was stuck with grass, sticks and stone and thus dug in! Ever see how those critters can overturn a landform?

Causes one to raise questions about why pigs are transient ... except for the Ham! That's a dark item in Hebrew ... mysterious ... may stretch the normal brane ...

Then there is the odd one ... the meme brane ... like a query!

 

[JayneWonders]

Agreed re ignore function.

We did look previously, but new functionality may exist

 

[Northwind]

Thanks mendalla and Jayne. I had a hard time not responding with snark the first time I saw a reaction. We're such a small group here and shouldn't need such things, but here we are.

 

[Luce NDs]

Last time I looked at the personality function it was getting more complex and knew even less of its explosive growth ... is that close to ignorant?

Possibly a character delinquency ... some lost icons? Some snarks are there and folk don't even see them ... like Christians dedication people to hell on a common pattern ... what's deficient? Some say knowledge is evil ... I search deeply ... and what I see is disruptive!

Humanity is trending towards hostile over the most vacant thoughts ... all emotional ...

 

[Mendalla]

but new functionality may exist

A quick search this morning suggests not much has changed. The "Improved Ignore" add-on that is available and supported is about extending Ignore from ignoring just users to ignoring threads and nodes (nodes=forums, but also pages like the "Who We Are"). Rpg.net implemented it and it works well. However, no one has really implemented more robust features on Ignore itself. Even the Force Ignore that we have available from a free add-on I installed a few years back is still just moderators being able to put users onto each other's Ignore list, not make the Ignore any tighter.

By the way, if the ability to Ignore threads is of interest, it is a US$35 for the add-on and US$25/yr for maintenance if we want future upgrades of it, which will likely be required after Xenforo 3.0 comes out in a year or so. I looked at it after rpg.net implemented it but decided it is not worth the bucks for this place.

 

[Northwind]

I agree @Mendalla. Thanks for looking into it.

 

[chansen]

This one looks intetesting if they ever get it updated to the current XF version:

[OzzModz] Global User Ignore (Tachy Goes to Coventry)

About this addon This works similar to vBulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature that many of know and love. Now you can finally stop the moderators nightmares. Add unwanted users to the global ignore without letting them know about it...

xenforo.com

 

[Luce NDs]

This one looks intetesting if they ever get it updated to the current XF version:

[OzzModz] Global User Ignore (Tachy Goes to Coventry)

About this addon This works similar to vBulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature that many of know and love. Now you can finally stop the moderators nightmares. Add unwanted users to the global ignore without letting them know about it...

xenforo.com

Would such a thing leave great holes in the dark mystery of what was eliminated? Thus pyre in the dark ... fools flaming? Maybe just a blazing puddle ...

In some ancient Pict tongues a hole in Eire is a Ron or Don that some maid of Eire ... contained ... a complex act ... leads to headless ness and red necks ...

 

[Mendalla]

This one looks intetesting if they ever get it updated to the current XF version:

[OzzModz] Global User Ignore (Tachy Goes to Coventry)

About this addon This works similar to vBulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature that many of know and love. Now you can finally stop the moderators nightmares. Add unwanted users to the global ignore without letting them know about it...

xenforo.com

Yeah, I have glanced at that one, too. Ozzy and his partners (there's like four or so of them now) are backlogged pretty badly after 2.3 yoinked JQuery from Xenforo, necessitating revamping of add-ons that called it. Plus he's had personal stuff going on and their site went down this week.

 

[chansen]

Honestly, you're right that it's probably best to wait until XF improves the native functionality if a future upgrade could break the site or the ignore function.

 

[Luce NDs]

I was chatting with a friend who is deep into IT, and as some others, he is hoping a new, fresh code will evolve based on a bottom line start!

Imagine a ground line in the electric connections ...

 

[Mendalla]

Honestly, you're right that it's probably best to wait until XF improves the native functionality if a future upgrade could break the site or the ignore function.

While I like the fact that Xenforo keeps the core kind of barebones with lots of hooks for others to extend it since it keeps the cost down, it is also a risk. We've seen some fairly big add-on devs disappear in recent years. Ozzy actually expanded by taking on some of those add-ons in addition to those developed by himself and the other devs who joined his team. The Rules add-on I use to maintain the Community Values page was one that he took over just after I started using it.

 

[JayneWonders]

It is one of the challenges related to any extensions from base functionality: Maintenance costs & end of life.
each function configured should be tested at any major release.
third party vendors can disappear or decide to charge you an arm-leg for maintenance
Even the primary vendor can decide to deprecate an option.

There is a reason the KISS principle works.
Customers/consumers may not like it, but, unless you want to be burning hours or $$ then, keep it functioning, but, not with all bells/whistles

 

[Northwind]

To be clear, I'm good with how things are now and well adjust. There's no need to risk messing things up with an add-on or new platform for one thing. I also can see that having a block type function on a site this small could really interfere with things.

 

[Mendalla]

I also can see that having a block type function on a site this small could really interfere with things.

That's been the argument raised against it on the threads on Xenforo.com. Too many people with too many blocks can really mess up the flow of conversation. If they introduce a block system, I would like it to be controllable either globally or using usergroups rather than just there.

I am all good with adding more functionality through add-ons and do it from time to time where there is a good free option, but spending money on them when the site is run on a fairly tight budget requires the add-on to be pretty important for us. And if support becomes an issue for an add-on, I will remove that add-on.

 

[Luce NDs]

It is one of the challenges related to any extensions from base functionality: Maintenance costs & end of life.
each function configured should be tested at any major release.
third party vendors can disappear or decide to charge you an arm-leg for maintenance
Even the primary vendor can decide to deprecate an option.

There is a reason the KISS principle works.
Customers/consumers may not like it, but, unless you want to be burning hours or $$ then, keep it functioning, but, not with all bells/whistles

Face it quality and complexity are expensive ... something that goes against modern economists that look only at the profit scheme ... the end result is not care of theirs! I've experienced that in the death of several corporate concerns that left the populace empty handed ... it is another indication of the human flaw regarding avarice (control freak-ism).

In water treatment it gets downright dirty if you have experienced the unhealthy side of it ... it is a very exotic alchemy ... and fear is autonomous!