Euthanesia to be authorized in Canada for mentally handicapped

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What about people who didn't have the means to put away for retirement? Those who didn't have good pensions? Those who made dumb choices? Are they less deserving?
No, but there should be more of a plan...govt pensions don't cover the need.
 
We are human and imperfect and thus broken before even starting ... because of great leadership folly ... God initiated us than got up and departed ...
 
We are human and imperfect and thus broken before even starting ... because of great leadership folly ...

We are ALL human
We all are prone to Sin -- to miss the mark
We are imperfect, hypocritical, marvelous beings and I don't want that to ever change lol

Which reminds me, have you read Ginsberg's Howl?
 
We are ALL human
We all are prone to Sin -- to miss the mark
We are imperfect, hypocritical, marvelous beings and I don't want that to ever change lol

Which reminds me, have you read Ginsberg's Howl?

You have a view of perfection that many of the upper class doesn't share ... thus need for thongs for flossing ... it is stated somewhere that humans are imperfect so God could assume the alternate personification ... thus assigned to judge! Some humans conflict over this point ...
 
You have a view of perfection that many of the upper class doesn't share ... thus need for thongs for flossing ... it is stated somewhere that humans are imperfect so God could assume the alternate personification ... thus assigned to judge! Some humans conflict over this point ...
ahh i think i get what you meant by "because of great leadership folly ..."

that if only we had the right leadership, we would be perfect?
 
"that if only we had the right leadership, we would be perfect?"

Nah ... that wouldn't work because there would be no folly to blame! The gods need an other to accuse ... for subtle reason!
 
I cringe when I see or hear about how people in their....s should be saving for retirement when they are just barely surviving on their income.
 
I cringe when I see or hear about how people in their....s should be saving for retirement when they are just barely surviving on their income.
I hear what you're saying, But when I talk about saving for retirement or saving for anything, I mostly think about the younger generation starting out. How many have actually sat down with a parent or financial advisor at their bank to work out a plan? $20 a month is doable to start but $20 a week is better...and without a plan, you may have nothing in the end but the govt allotted amount 40 years later.
 
I cringe when I see or hear about how people in their....s should be saving for retirement when they are just barely surviving on their income.
I do think we need better public support for those who do not have a pension plan for sure.

But for those who do, there is really no excuse.

If they are in a defined contribution plan and aren't sure how to allocate the funds efficiently, the plans generally offer advice from a financial planner on their staff. At least ours does.

And if they are in a defined benefit plan? If they are barely surviving something is wrong, because most of those are pretty generous. I was in OMERS for a decade when I was working as a librarian and if I had stuck that out, I would have had a very nice post-retirement income.

And if people with or without a pension plan do have money over and above what is required for their needs, saving it for the future is a legit use for it. The government needs to support that with things like the RRSP deduction and sheltering rather than penalizing them for planning ahead.

So do make sure CPP, OAS, and GIS do their job right (in fact, probably get rid of the latter two and roll them into a well-designed basic income plan) and that people without other sources of pension income can enjoy a reasonable retirement, but also keep and enhance the mechanisms that encourage saving for those who can do it. Society benefits when people who can take care of themselves do so because more public resources are available for the rest.
 
My comment was referring to comments made about people generally under 50 with minimal income, usually by people with high incomes. Many people have jobs without pension plans, often without any benefits.

I agree with you about a basic income. B's grandmother had a much more comfortable life after turning 65 than she had for most of her life before that.
 
I came from a background where it was a struggle to live week to week and many of the people around me lived that way. Some made advances and declared they provide their kids everything they ever wanted (not necessarily needed). This seems to impress the next generation of no foresight to the point they cannot see those under them thinking any different than those who spend every last dollar on entertainment. I see young folk spending thousands of $ they do not have to buy all the big boy's toys because of advertising. Yet the powers say there are no chimera (like advertising monsters). Then neighbours with larger houses, bigger cars, etc. etc. and little equity ... and we ask where all common sense goes?

"AD" once meant overhead, beyond, projecting or high items ... and no one admits to such addictions coming from ADs.

Is there reason that some factions encourage loss of loss of adequate sentient without a second thought? If the second thought comes too late are we already into disaster an folly? Go figure that those that have a prevision ... are said to be evilly WOKE or overly sensitive in there visionary schemes. The a scheme was once known as a conspired item of concern, worry, or bother as an ancient ANis. This word in literature evolves in columns ... and due to insensitivity to word ... we see something departing the mortal beastie! Leaving vast abyss, mentally ... it could be called a demented construct!

Does wealth have a greater sway than common sentients as social function? Thus anti socialistic trends and tildes ... waves and wrinkles ... never before observed? Sight unseen ... related to blinded what?
 
Then there is that social power of sphere's, moons and Charon's as a go round in resonating failures of connections! Something fell out? Ah the enigma of abstract dominions ...
Can law d lie could baffle be considered a wealth if you have the law under your thumb? Sort of sheds some light on the matter of conflict of politics and justice, doesn't it?

When you consider the idea of power as raw force versus the power of knowledge it rather constructs a pole for gaining guidance over the justice system doesn't it and subsequent censoring of literary resources and how the human psyche deals with what literary resources are available and which ones are eliminated, denied!

It is a terrible enigma for a person running for office on a platform of honesty and virtue when a well placed bit of misinformation to the poorly educated could provide a miracle. Can some folk not imagine that they are doing such a thing if they have a virtual BS that they are honestly doing the RIGHT thing?

Could such a BS start to smell of poor intelligence because of connections and relationships when you do not believe such a connection is relative?

Is it possible for abyss to form in the psyche of a person that has the BS that the are the greatest of all knowledge bearing beasts on the Wahl? Thus lions, dragons, etc. at the doors of bureaucratic establishments ... for the sake of scaring off demons and the offspring thereof, democratic social constructs? Whatever power is required to bring a flawed civilization down ... depending on angle of perspective ... something could alter but unlikely ... due to unseen fixations! Thus very slow advances in light where darkness spreads instantly in a crock ... perhaps misinformation but considering the counter current, what dah eL? Isn't earth a place set aside for donkey jousting in the halls ... home of hollo dox ... and tracks in Stardust ... dreamy malfunction of the differentials declared divinely denied? Can't see it? Maybe its the ... you know corruption is in us ... with us and the other side it is countering their desires!

If you don't have the powers ... go subtle baffle them with a duck ... it may go down! So wrote, etc. Some say Rhode under the span of the compass ... setting at least 4 points ... speech, press, belief, motion ... and thus they all run off ... inky?

Playing with how thoughts of justice are hidden in the dark ... sacred?
 
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People living on disability income can’t set aside money. They are already living well below poverty line and saving $20 a week is not a solution to the housing crisis (and accessible housing crisis) and rent prices that are through the roof. It’s also not feasible. We have legislated poverty, and legislated death.
 
People living on disability income can’t set aside money. They are already living well below poverty line and saving $20 a week is not a solution to the housing crisis (and accessible housing crisis) and rent prices that are through the roof. It’s also not feasible. We have legislated poverty, and legislated death.
Which is the exact issue Jim and I are discussing. There needs to be a solution for people like that, not just for the ones who are working and making good money. Right now, a lot of the programs (e.g. RRSPs and TFSAs) only help one segment of the population, the one that has a good job.
 
Which is the exact issue Jim and I are discussing. There needs to be a solution for people like that, not just for the ones who are working and making good money. Right now, a lot of the programs (e.g. RRSPs and TFSAs) only help one segment of the population, the one that has a good job.

But if you only listen to good news you would not be conscious of the down sides of not having sufficient base income ...
 
People need to know about this. It was first reported by Vice, and is also in the NP. Both sides of the aisle. It’s not being broadly reported on, however. I’m unfortunately not surprised. This is beyond unacceptable, it’s downright disturbing. The slippery slope keeps going. It’s getting really slimy - genocidally slimy. If you believe they will hold to and never err in determining lack of social supports as a factor - I have a bridge to sell you because that’s what they said about safeguards for physically disabled people originally, and now proponents are defending the idea that lack of social support shouldn’t impede eligibility. Many without affordable housing and accessibility have already died by MAiD.

 
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I saw that people with addictions were now eligible (or will be) That is a huge concern. It adds to my general concern overall. Sadly, it's cheaper to kill people than provide supports. The decreasing empathy in our world doesn't help matters. :(
 
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