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I don't see how, once in custody I think everything would be covered by AHCIP.

I'm sure he would have been treated if it turned into an emergency. Prevent that from occurring is always the ideal though. By that point, there's usually some damage that won't ever 100% be undone.
 
I would bet it was an issue of what was in the vial. The can't just allow an inmate to shoot up potentially. Why they didn't just get a new vial for the pharmacy is beyond me or contact his doc. Perhaps that was what the delay was
 
We'll probably never know why they denied him the insulin unless there's an public inquiry and there probably won't be.

I think we have a real problem in our jails. Ottawa has one of the worst jails in Canada - investigations keep revealing huge problems with our local detention centre - heck, a woman gave birth in a cell because she was denied medical care. People with mental illness thrown in there with no support - I live in fear that that will happen to me. These people committed a crime - sometimes unspeakable acts - but they are still humans who deserve basic care.

I wonder, Chemgal, if you should carry a letter from your doctor (on his/her letterhead) that explains your situation and what you need specifically.
 
It's scary to think that this happens in Canadian jails and prisons. Part of Harper's Get Tough on Crime???

Regardless of the crime (in this case minor, but even if he were a child-rapist or a murder) he should have had his insulin in a timely manner.
 
I wonder, Chemgal, if you should carry a letter from your doctor (on his/her letterhead) that explains your situation and what you need specifically.
I have one for the emergency room. The last time I went there, they ignored what to do and I refused a few meds I knew do not work, and accepted another that I know now doesn't work and in fact made things worse. If they ignored it, I think the cops in the case would probably do the same, along with the G20 situation.

The probability of something like this happening is low. It just scares me that it's not zero, at least in this country.
 
It's scary to think that this happens in Canadian jails and prisons. Part of Harper's Get Tough on Crime???

Regardless of the crime (in this case minor, but even if he were a child-rapist or a murder) he should have had his insulin in a timely manner.
I don't know much about the prison system, but I think this is provincial based, and not federal. I agree with the last poitn.
 
And another example, this one in the US where the man had something similar to me and died:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/23/investigators-probe-jail-death-of-retired-fdny-chiefs-son/
I wonder if he had his medicine available to him if he was on home treatment.

More medical details, he was given bendryl, a medication that is commonly given to treat angioedema, but when it's non-histamine mediated, it is known that it does not work:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...love-dies-jail-begging-medical-attention.html
 
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Somewhat off topic - but I'll post here anyway.

today I went to the ER with a really awFul headache (probably a migraine - but I didn't diagnose myself).. This was the third morning in a row that I have woken at 1am with an almost unbearable headache and thought it should be checked out. I was barely able to stand and give my details. The nurse did the triage stuff and the doc came in and immediately accused me of being a drug seeker!

First time I've ever been treated that way. I was given three Tylenols and sent home! I still have the headache.

Maybe the MRI I'm booked for on Friday will give some clues . I'm finding it tiresome dealing with some degree of headache everyday since Christmas - but glad it isn't often this bad.
 
That is so screwed up, Kay. In the meantime, for pain control, bad level, if I can't get anything else (bruised ribs, etc.). You can take 8 extra strength tylenol per day. You can take 2 naproxen. So, you do naproxen at 8 a.m., 2 tylenol at 10 a.m., 2 tylenol at 2 p.m., 1 naproxen at 4 p.m., 2 tylenol at 6 p.m., 2 tylenol at 10 p,.m. or stretch it to make it through the night,. Also, you can throw in some cannabis gummies, 4 X 25 mcg per day.
 
I speak from experience. I am a clumsy person, with poor vision, who often hurts herself, but really just needs pain relief to heal.
 
Somewhat off topic - but I'll post here anyway.

today I went to the ER with a really awFul headache (probably a migraine - but I didn't diagnose myself).. This was the third morning in a row that I have woken at 1am with an almost unbearable headache and thought it should be checked out. I was barely able to stand and give my details. The nurse did the triage stuff and the doc came in and immediately accused me of being a drug seeker!

First time I've ever been treated that way. I was given three Tylenols and sent home! I still have the headache.

Maybe the MRI I'm booked for on Friday will give some clues . I'm finding it tiresome dealing with some degree of headache everyday since Christmas - but glad it isn't often this bad.
Hang in there Kay, that doctor was out of line.
Sometimes headaches can come from referred pain meaning the actual cause of the pain comes from somewhere else...possibly your neck or spine ( Im not a doc lol) just suggesting you ask your doc about it.
Hopefully that MRI can give you some answers.
 
That is so screwed up, Kay. In the meantime, for pain control, bad level, if I can't get anything else (bruised ribs, etc.). You can take 8 extra strength tylenol per day. You can take 2 naproxen. So, you do naproxen at 8 a.m., 2 tylenol at 10 a.m., 2 tylenol at 2 p.m., 1 naproxen at 4 p.m., 2 tylenol at 6 p.m., 2 tylenol at 10 p,.m. or stretch it to make it through the night,. Also, you can throw in some cannabis gummies, 4 X 25 mcg per day.
I was concerned because this was a new pattern. Previously going to bed, with cold packs and basic pain meds fixed my pain. After seeing the neuro I was told to not take any pain meds but to go to the ER. I did that once and was told to only show up there if I couldn't cope at home. Be nice if the docs could get on the same page!

I'm still bristling at the diagnosis of 'drug seeker'!
 
I was concerned because this was a new pattern. Previously going to bed, with cold packs and basic pain meds fixed my pain. After seeing the neuro I was told to not take any pain meds but to go to the ER. I did that once and was told to only show up there if I couldn't cope at home. Be nice if the docs could get on the same page!

I'm still bristling at the diagnosis of 'drug seeker'!
I think overall the term is pretty ridiculous for the emergency room. Many people there ARE drug seeking for good reasons - not to get high, but to treat a problem.

You may need what I have for the next trip - a specialist's letter for the emergency department.
 
There are people that believe that everything is a theory and pain is just contrived and should be denied ... look what that has done t some leadership characters o bring them down is some opinions and yet some prefer to believe the theory of the lie ... especially about what they know about health!

If rheumatoid syndrome is so serious encompassing some very serious disorders ... why do many health authorities say it is nothing? Excess confidence over things they know little of and yet others say you don't need to know that! Consequence is ... knowledge departs .... rite well denied ... along with the processing therein!

Alas it is not acceptable to speak of it ...
 
Wow @KayTheCurler ...I am shocked at a professional making such a judgement instead of doing all possible to help an individual get healthy. Maybe the individual was suffering burnout, but I sincerely hope he gets whatever help he needs before continuing in his practice. There is a power imbalance between doctor and patient sometime, and I'm sure you are feeling helpless and belittled. Wondering how to let anyone with authority know that this happened. At our hospital we have an on-line patient comment/review section. I have used it to compliment some staff on their excellent treatment of difficult patients (We witnessed police/drug overdoses/chaos at ER and the nurse on the desk was SO amazing and I thought it needed to be recognized). I'm sure you could point out the unhelpful treatment you received so that someone will listen.
 
There will be a letter. Carefully worded and not sent in haste. At the moment I'm still bristling so it is too soon to be able to share my feelings fairly. I was more that a little astounded that a trained doctor would think it appropriate to offer Tylenol to someone with a severe migraine - I had already taken some of those at home!. They didn't work at the ER either.

I have heard many stories about how awful the ER is and always countered with stories of the good work they do. At the moment I feel disinclined to go there if I get another severe headache! Maybe just wait until hubby calls an ambulance - those people tend to get taken more seriously.
 
Our week from hell, when my husband ended up in ER 4 times (with upwards of 5 hour waits each time), we got different doctors, with differing results. None were rude. But the one that I nicknamed Dr. Cocaine (he talked so fast that my husband couldn't keep up with him) was the absolute best and I credit him for getting my husband all the tests that he needed and acting FAST. He was the third doctor we saw that week, but the one that I think made all the difference. So, sometimes it is the luck of the draw...depends on who you happen to get.
 
Our week from hell, when my husband ended up in ER 4 times (with upwards of 5 hour waits each time), we got different doctors, with differing results. None were rude. But the one that I nicknamed Dr. Cocaine (he talked so fast that my husband couldn't keep up with him) was the absolute best and I credit him for getting my husband all the tests that he needed and acting FAST. He was the third doctor we saw that week, but the one that I think made all the difference. So, sometimes it is the luck of the draw...depends on who you happen to get.

That seems like chance ... at one time affiliated with quanta ... as bits of light pass as fuzzy parcels! The place we live ... chancy because few excavate for what they don't know ... in actuality I noted many of them were praised for knowing all that was needed ... when that was part of the abort!

What we know compared to the great unknown is a large ration ... irrational! Some are against getting any of it together for good sentient ...
 
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