Death / dying

[JayneWonders]

Listened to an interesting interview of this Manitoba researcher

I found some of his information fascinating, such as how we perceive care

This line rang true: "Chochinov says that this practice and others that prioritize dignity are vital to improving the quality of life for terminally ill patients, and has a profound impact on a patient's will to live, he says. "

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/dr-harvey-max-chochinov-dignity-therapy-1.7333152

 

[Northwind]

This is an important discussion. We've lost a lot of the rituals and ceremonies around death and dying that we used to have.

I'll listen to that later.

I'm very thankful my friend has palliative care and the supports (mostl) she needs at this time. She's had metastatic breast cancer for over ten years (12?) so of course knew this was coming. But still.... She is choosing MAID so has some control.

Another friend chose not to use MAID. She was a retired RN so knew that Palliative Care would support her. I met her five years ago when she was allegedly on death's door from ovarian cancer. She only died in December 2023 after living with the disease for about 8 years. She was able to go back to Newfoundland to celebrate her 50th anniversary of graduating from nursing school and her 70th birthday. She also bought a Burberry purse she liked. She was an energizer bunny. Her cane was blinged up. She liked her bling. Her daughter made sure she had lipstick on when she died. She found her way to have dignity on her way out too.

 

[JayneWonders]

Thanks for sharing.

I think it rang true to me on a few levels
I will listen to it in full again

 

[JayneWonders]

I feel that @Kimmio Laughterlove would appreciate the recounting of his sisters situation in ICU, and the very real risk of not being treated optimally due to their disability

Just a few sentences really focussed in on the situation and how lens need to shift.

 

[JayneWonders]

Brought up in conversation with spouse and in-laws what they wanted to have happen when they die.
Led to interesting dialogue.

We're in quite different situations. They have 10 grandchildren across 15 years. we have two.
Given that, with family alone, they are significantly larger in terms of who might be there.

We talked about if we died tomorrow, versus if we died in 20 years. (Who would still be alive from our friends, and relatives-cousins, fellow workers, etc)
We talked about the difference that being part of a community, such as a church community which has ritual in gathering.

It was a good dialogue.

 

[Luce NDs]

Brought up in conversation with spouse and in-laws what they wanted to have happen when they die.
Led to interesting dialogue.

We're in quite different situations. They have 10 grandchildren across 15 years. we have two.
Given that, with family alone, they are significantly larger in terms of who might be there.

We talked about if we died tomorrow, versus if we died in 20 years. (Who would still be alive from our friends, and relatives-cousins, fellow workers, etc)
We talked about the difference that being part of a community, such as a church community which has ritual in gathering.

It was a good dialogue.

Provides a lot of unknowns ... right? Yet still there are presentiments ...