Can we know God? What can we know?

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DL said: Because of what I wrote above. God is not a loving parent if He allows our pleas to him to be intercepted by Satan. That is abusive and nasty.

Obviously not what I believe. But I see this as a consequence of what I am understanding of the way you are presenting your beliefs?

In some sectors ans secular groups god is said to be vengeful, etc.! other sectors do not know that because knowledge is forbidden and scientific philosophy is evil because it breaks with the blind concept ...

Even in Judean consideratings Satan is said to be God's agitator to keep the person on toes. If God is a man it would be Mrs. God or as George stated that be Gracious ... do you get a pattern standing out?

Send a message off to John Denver ... he is in close contact through eternal connections ... Ani' song may help! I've spoke of Ani many times as a concern ... most folk cannot see my worries, etc.

 

[Mystic]

Paul teaches that we can know Christ and have a personal relationship with Him, but we can't claim to know God. But through Christ we can sense that God has come to know us in a mystical relationship sense. Thus, Paul can say:

"I want to know Christ and the power of His resurrection... (Phil. 3:10)."
"Test yourselves. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you--unless indeed you fail to meet the test (3 Cor. 13:5)!"

But notice how Paul corrects himself here:

"...You have come to know God, OR RATHER BE KNOWN BY GOD (Gal. 4:9)."
"Anyone who love God IS KNOWN BY HIM (1 Cor. 8:3)." [Not "If anyone loves God, they know God."]
"For now we see, [God] as in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face (1 Cor. 13:12)."

Thus, Paul's teaching echoes the teaching in Isaiah:

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9)."

 

[Waterfall]

Paul teaches that we can know Christ and have a personal relationship with Him, but we can't claim to know God. But through Christ we can sense that God has come to know us in a mystical relationship sense. Thus, Paul can say:

"I want to know Christ and the power of His resurrection... (Phil. 3:10)."
"Test yourselves. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you--unless indeed you fail to meet the test (3 Cor. 13:5)!"

But notice how Paul corrects himself here:

"...You have come to know God, OR RATHER BE KNOWN BY GOD (Gal. 4:9)."
"Anyone who love God IS KNOWN BY HIM (1 Cor. 8:3)." [Not "If anyone loves God, they know God."]
"For now we see, [God] as in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face (1 Cor. 13:12)."

Thus, Paul's teaching echoes the teaching in Isaiah:

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts (Isaiah 55:8-9)."

Somedays I really appreciate your posts.....thanks.

 

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Yet light (Christ) is so limited in the great mystery (darkness) ... however pride and rooster-like strutting will overcome the night.

Does the rooster believe this if he is quiet until the dawn and fall of light? Maybe a neurological inversion! (ONE must learn what neurologic and rheumatic's are all about ... maybe everything ... and still we do not wish to know how the myth ends! Thus the mystery prevails over what mortals claim to know about ... well you know, the other ... "them"! Thus them rubs us the wrong way ... according to the definition of Jude (power, confidence, requiring worship, etc.) that has a strong odor about it!

But what if the mystery covers for the light to protect those that don't wish to know, allowing for the free choice ... ignorance inclusive? Thus if many of our genes are common ... imagine the things we share in coded form! Even stupidity has a voice of its own ... it stupidity's voice like that of a robot? Same old, same old ... nothing can go wrong ... and people believe that sort of item? Without question!

God is the word and you can mess with it like a food, or fu'd ... and it was off and about ... what we're not sure it is not Sheul ... Ur Ultimate! Deficient end ... must be mores to it!