BIDEN - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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I think he brings some gravitas back into the role of President. He's also relatable as someone who has experienced emotional hardship. I like that he's not ashamed to kiss his grown son Hunter and that Jill his wife has a doctorate in education and teaches. I like that they will have a dog in the White House. I think he'll have a jolly good relationship with Trudeau. It's weird....Trudeau is young for a world leader and Biden is among the oldest.
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I think ... the most destructive element of Trump hysteria is not that it's unfair to Trump, but that it necessarily erases the crimes of his predecessors AND future presidents. It blurs out the criminal nature of the US empire as an institution by making it about one guy.
 

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So, how would you FIX our political systems?

“In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete.”
― Buckminster R. Fuller
 

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I know nice smart people with pretty clean pasts, as far as I know, who would make great politicians. Why is it so hard to do better than Trump?
But do you know any that actually did make great politicians?

That would not be corrupted by the system?

That would be supported by the system?

How many candidates were there at the beginning of this democratic process?

There is no way for the people to vote for a candidate that the system itself will not allow.

There just isn't.

A vote for either of the two front runners is always going to be a vote for Goldman Sachs as Chris Hedges would say.

And the people fall for it ... over and over and over.

Which POTUS ... given all the ones that have ever held the position ... do you think was the best in your lifetime?

It is literally impossible to say Trump is uniquely evil among presidents without rehabilitating George W Bush.

As George Carlin would say ... It's a club and we ain't in it.
 

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“False reality” requires historical amnesia, lying by omission and the transfer of significance to the insignificant. In this way, political systems promising security and social justice have been replaced by piracy, “austerity” and “perpetual war”: an extremism dedicated to the overthrow of democracy. Applied to an individual, this would identify a psychopath. Why do we accept it? — John Pilger, award–winningjournalist, in History is the Enemy as “Brilliant” Psy-ops Become the News
 

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Do you think it's a mostly male thing?

No! It is pure dissonance ... life is like that when we have no care for the alien!

I feel this ... as being denied and dejected ... especially by absolute religious fixers! Templar waste?

I had several female relatives that stated men were stupid ... regardless of the relative few ... ethereal? Thus men a screwed and washed out ... perhaps wipeout as this is what girls seem to want ... deep vortices?

Geez, these woman would gladly knock your block off ... bosch destruction? Harry situation in the code ...
 

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Rita, I notice you do like to write ( or copy and paste) a lot about injustice in the world. How about joining the Amnesty International Write for Rights event.
Write for Rights, Amnesty International Canada. Guaranteed more successful that trying to convince any of the WCers here. ( see the success stories on the AI website).
So I have been doing some research around Amnesty International ...

Excerpts from the 15 February 2012 article, “‘Human Rights’ Warriors for Empire,” published by Black Agenda Report:

“Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are swigging the ale with their fellow buccaneers. These ‘human rights’ warriors, headquartered in the bellies of empires past and present, their chests shiny with medals of propagandistic service to superpower aggression in Libya, contribute ‘left’ legitimacy to the imperial project.
Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have chosen sides in the Washington-backed belligerency – the side of Empire. As groups most often associated with (what passes for) the Left in their headquarters’ countries, they are invaluable allies of the current imperial offensive….
There was great ambivalence – the most polite word I can muster – among purported leftists in the United States and Europe to NATO’s bombardment and subjugation of Libya. Here we are again, in the face of existential imperial threats to Syria and Iran, as leftists temporize about human rights while the ‘greatest purveyor of violence in the world today’ blazes new warpaths.
There is no such thing as an anti-war activist who is not an anti-imperialist. And the only job of an anti-imperialist in the belly of the beast is to disarm the beast. Absent that, s/he is useless to humanity.
As we used to say: You are part of the solution – or you are part of the problem. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are part of the problem.”
There is no such thing as an anti-war activist who is not an anti-imperialist.

And the only job of an anti-imperialist in the belly of the beast is to disarm the beast.

Absent that, s/he is useless to humanity.
 

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So I have been doing some research around Amnesty International ...

Excerpts from the 15 February 2012 article, “‘Human Rights’ Warriors for Empire,” published by Black Agenda Report:


There is no such thing as an anti-war activist who is not an anti-imperialist.

And the only job of an anti-imperialist in the belly of the beast is to disarm the beast.

Absent that, s/he is useless to humanity.
Sounds like a really good excuse to not do anything, dear Rita, but complain about the state of the world on the internet.
 

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Sounds like a really good excuse to not do anything, dear Rita, but complain about the state of the world on the internet.
So dear Mrs Anteater you don't complain about the state of the world on the internet then? You only do things ... without the internet ... you do those things. Dear Mrs. Anteater ... you have no idea what I do outside of the internet. When I am on the internet ... I do research ... and that is what you told me to do when I asked you if there were any petitions that you would like me to look at ... you told me to go and find out for myself. I went to your link ... using the internet - and then I went further and researched Amnesty International ... that is what I do when I am on the internet. So instead of complaining about me, Dear Mrs. Anteater, not doing anything ... what have you done on this website ... in particular ... that is better than what I am doing here?
 
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Do you think it's a mostly male thing?
I used to think so. Because that was my experience - and the women in my life who'd rather fight were just trying to keep up with those ol' boys who would keep them down - to be equals in a "man's world". I now think it's a sociopathic alpha problem, that's still mostly nurtured in males - and that's not something to strive to equalize - but is not limited to males. But even the betas among us don't have to put up with crap. If it weren't for the alpha sociopaths maybe there wouldn't be any crap to stand up to. I think - hope - that's changing. That the alpha male standard - no matter what gender is conditioned to it - isn't the one looked up to anymore.
 

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Sounds like a really good excuse to not do anything, dear Rita, but complain about the state of the world on the internet.
You are not anti-war. I am.

I expect a human rights organization to be intrinsically opposed to war, but AI is a cheerleader of so-called humanitarian intervention, and even “humanitarian bombing”. In the past, when queried about its equivocal and lame statements about wars, an AI official stated that “Amnesty International is not anti-war”. Even with this predisposition AI was honoured with the Nobel Peace Prize – yet another undeserving recipient for a prize meant to be given only to those actively opposed to wars.

In Syria’s case, AI has given up this phony “not anti-war” stance for one that is actively advocating war.

So I have crossed them off my list. I did the research and I have you to thank for that.

That is not to say that individuals under the umbrella of AI have not done any good ... they have indeed done a lot of good ... that is not in dispute.

After bureaucratization occurs, a movement can either succeed, fail, have its leaders become co-opted, have its members be repressed by a larger group (e.g. government), or become accepted into the mainstream.

AI is just not the organization that suits my criteria for 'joining' ... I am seriously anti-war ... they are not.
 
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On a left show, where everyone on this show voted for Biden and the Dems, they can critique their own side...A segment on the problem with Democrats ideology of compromise with the Republicans. How Obama liked "reaching across the aisle", Biden likes it even more, but how that undermines needed policies that only the left supports - universal healthcare, living wages, organized labour, environment, etc - all long held policy positions and values on the left. All of those things just fall by the wayside under "compromising" leadership and make way for the far right crazies again, that have taken over the Republican Party. They shouldn't be getting a fair shake at politics and governance. They just shouldn't. They're obscene. Never again. What some of these wingnuts that represent the party have done to the party and country is obscene. Don't mock them (unless it's really funny ;) mocking the leadership is ok) because that's not nice...but what Biden is likely going to do is keep legitimizing them, which is much worse. So, Sam Seder and crew will be keeping an eye on that so the Dems and fellow Dem voters don't fall asleep again.

 
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The Republicans have gone so far right they should not even be on the map, and the Dems could split and represent left and right in a much more sensible way. In my opinion. Biden is at the right end of the left, AOC is at the left end - there are probably some in the middle of the left I can't think of - Beto O'Rourke, does he still have a job? Kamala Harris, I suppose, is centre-left. But the Republicans have gone off a cliff. Unless and until they can reform their own party into something sane, I don't think Dems should be reaching across the aisle on very many things. They should be bridging divides on the left, in their own party.
 
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On a left show, where everyone on this show voted for Biden and the Dems, they can critique their own side...A segment on the problem with Democrats ideology of compromise with the Republicans. How Obama liked "reaching across the aisle", Biden likes it even more, but how that undermines needed policies that only the left supports - universal healthcare, living wages, organized labour, environment, etc - all long held policy positions and values on the left. All of those things just fall by the wayside under "compromising" leadership and make way for the far right crazies again, that have taken over the Republican Party. They shouldn't be getting a fair shake at politics and governance. They just shouldn't. They're obscene. Never again. What some of these wingnuts that represent the party have done to the party and country is obscene. Don't mock them (unless it's really funny ;) mocking the leadership is ok) because that's not nice...but what Biden is likely going to do is keep legitimizing them, which is much worse. So, Sam Seder and crew will be keeping an eye on that so the Dems and fellow Dem voters don't fall asleep again.

And left positions like civil rights, human rights, equality. Biden can't be compromising on those things or he makes room for the far right.
 

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Problem is that, unless they scoop TWO Senate seats in Georgia in January (not terribly likely), Biden will be governing with a GOP Senate majority, in which nothing gets done, thanks to that evil turtle, Mitch McConnell.
 
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Problem is that, unless they scoop TWO Senate seats in Georgia in January (not terribly likely), Biden will be governing with a GOP Senate majority, in which nothing gets done, thanks to that evil turtle, Mitch McConnell.
Well, getting things done isn't important if it's going to make things worse in order to seem bipartisan. Hopefully he can stall the republican plans at best, and overturn some of Trump's executive order policies. I don't see him turning the US into anything near a socialist country like the right wing fear mongers are mongering about. Biden and Harris are not exactly radical leftists, nor are they democratic socialists. Unfortanely, for the latter, imo - because they are a young and growing part of the Democratic Party who represent what their young constituents want.

I hope AOC runs in 2024. I would welcome that. By then, her age group and younger - combined with many from my age group - will be the largest voting block. And they'll go left.
 
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