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jimkenney12 said:
I am talk about the dance programs including ballet, jazz, modern where the girls wear what looks like a pound of makeup with provocative clothing.
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The self confidence dance creates, the exercise and the art form far outshines the makeup for girls and boys who are serious about their art. Makeup does help with presentation when you are not close to the stage in the audience IMO.
 
Obviously, what is out there varies. I took dance classes as a child, along with my sisters. It was a weekly discipline, with a yearly recital. The parents/me made costumes from pretty hilarious materials and patterns. There were always a few boys. It was a fun and gentle pursuit for our family.
 
jimkenney12 said:
I am talk about the dance programs including ballet, jazz, modern where the girls wear what looks like a pound of makeup with provocative clothing.
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And, really, it should be possible to teach dance without doing that. Because we can't discourage dance as an activity. It's actually good for exercise, balance, and so on. It would not take a huge effort to get rid of the sexualization.

That said, I also would not put all the blame on the dance programs. I am sure a lot of that is the influence of social media and music video, with the kids wanting to look like Beyonce or whomever is "hot".
 
Mendalla said:
And, really, it should be possible to teach dance without doing that. Because we can't discourage dance as an activity. It's actually good for exercise, balance, and so on. It would not take a huge effort to get rid of the sexualization.

That said, I also would not put all the blame on the dance programs. I am sure a lot of that is the influence of social media and music video, with the kids wanting to look like Beyonce or whomever is "hot".
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No makeup is used during practices, which is usually weekly and to teach dance steps. Only for performances once a year for the younger ones in front of their relatives. I rather enjoy watching my granddaughter.
 
Waterfall said:
The self confidence dance creates, the exercise and the art form far outshines the makeup for girls and boys who are serious about their art. Makeup does help with presentation when you are not close to the stage in the audience IMO.
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I have heard similar arguments for team sports for children. Fitness, teamwork and so on.

Fact is the positive experience is not universal.
 
Waterfall said:
No makeup is used during practices, which is usually weekly and to teach dance steps. Only for performances once a year for the younger ones in front of their relatives. I rather enjoy watching my granddaughter.
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All the more reason it should be possible to rein it in and encourage fun costumes and makeup rather than sexualized ones. And maybe a lot do that and Jim is exaggerating the problem. I haven't been around a dance class in a long time.
 
Fun costumes???

From what I can see attire for recitals and competitions is serious business.
 
I was talking fifty years ago, when we had little money, and a little more adeptness with basic sewing skills, mainly. The basis for most of the costumes was a leotard, and tights and they tried to keep it all one colour that worked with everything. Then there was cardboard, patterns, various fluffy stuff, and parents (or me, in my case) made it sorta work so the kids looked pretty cute from a bit of a distance. And yeah, lipstick on lips and cheeks, rather bright, was about it.
 
The option is song and dance under the moon and completely naked like one of those rye wraiths ... sometimes catching in the abstract!

These may pass like a cloud ...
 
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