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chansen

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When Jae stops being an a**hole, we can stop talking about how Jae is an a**hole.
 
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He’s not that bad. He’s just a mild s**t disturber sometimes. Really. Truly. Look at the world we live in.

Trying to empathize here. Sometimes the piling on of Jae is a huge overreaction - and there’s been unprovoked mockery that wasn’t apologized for. I’ve seen it. people feel entitled to treat Jae that way, regardless...there seems to be unspoken justification that it’s okay to go after Jae for any reason, not always good reason. Generally, there’s motivation to please nice people who can also move forward and get along, not those who feel entitled to mock you later anyway. Threads like this have never helped before. Why would they now?
 
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Lastpointe said:
Can we collectively handle it better.


First we would have to collectively agrer on what the exact problem is. Then we would have to agree to respond in identical fashion.

Otherwise behaviour modification fails.

And it isn't just consistency among members it is consistency among every member.

Lastpointe said:
We are a small forum. Do we want to scare more people away?
Until we are presented with actual proof that we are scaring folk away I think the question is an attempt to shut down discussion.

Lastpointe said:
Don’t we say we want diverse opinions?
We do. And the issue is not Jae's opinions so much as it is Jae's behaviours. Quite frankly, he is abusive.

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Seems like what we mostly want is liberal minded opinions only


In a word, bulls**t.

We do not have the same conversations about unsafe.

We do not have the same conversations about Pontifex Geronimo 13.

We do not have the same conversations about blackbelt 1961.

Theologically speaking these tend more towards Christian Fundamentalism or Evangelicalism more than Christian Conservatism (Since Christian Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism are relatively new expressions of Christianity).

We did not have the same conversations about airclean33.

Theologically speaking he is a mixed bag.

We don't have these conversations about me and theologically speaking my pedigree is more conservative than all of the above.

We have (historically) had these conversations about StephenBooth, berzerk, SylviaC and Jae.

And always these conversations have been about behaviour and whether or not they cross lines into unhealthy.

Consensus being yes, they do, constantly.

So much so that StephenBooth was a carry over ban.

As far as I am aware Berzerk has not been banned here. I am not even aware that he has been warned or otherwise.

Jae has been disciplined several times alongside of his personal immolations which may coincide with personal stressors outside of WC2.
 

chansen

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First we would have to collectively agrer on what the exact problem is. Then we would have to agree to respond in identical fashion.

Otherwise behaviour modification fails.

And it isn't just consistency among members it is consistency among every member.
I tried to get all members to simply not respond to Jae when he is behaving like this, years ago. It broke down immediately. This group is not fully on board to present a united front to help someone.
 
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