The 101 of Falls

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Luce NDs said:
The lesson? Don;t fall down dad ... keep running ...
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Oh you can fall down. Daisy has taken a tumble on the ice several times. Generally comes from attempting a vector shift at high speed.

The real lesson is don't try and take stock while you are down.

If you stop to think yer dead meat.
 
Imagine running and thinking at the same time ... kind've reminds me of the duality of: Emotional Intelligence ... a course in Ethics ... when I audited the course ... the prof leaned towards passions and said thinking didn't count!

I was told by other professionals that I didn't experience that ... an essence of denial? Good grief? I take the broader perspective and thus see the depths ... no end to 'IT! Considering the extent of what we don't know ... an ambiguity about the Hebrew idealism (god of mystery)!

It is an acquired taste ... curios lyre? Thus irregular poetry comes up as prosety! It is an odd etude ... like the tree of lingan ... linguistics with all the resin Asian ... few dedicated to ongoing ... like Dr. Doorley taught about Jungian Psychology Study ... no end to that either?

Thus words like extensive and extenuating pain of heavens ... stretched into a essence?

It is a hard case for the physical orientation ... like understanding fugacity or enthalpy ... turns the mind inside out ... like that Disney Movie!

Upside Down as reciprocation in the Moors? Life is sometimes akin to that impression ... due to imp acts ...
 
This is Daisy with one of her many, many sticks. Upon closer look she might have three in her mouth at the one time. One large and two smaller. Not unusual. Very entertaining when she drops one.
 

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The idea is for the O/T to observe first hand what the conditions were under which the client fell. Makes for better recommendations for follow up?
 
BetteTheRed said:
The idea is for the O/T to observe first hand what the conditions were under which the client fell. Makes for better recommendations for follow up?
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I'm just trying to picture how it works. Does the OT go off in the ambulance too? Can they do a full assessment when paramedics are treating the person within the area it occurred and then getting them into the ambulance and rushing off to the hospital?
 
ChemGal said:
I'm a little confused by an OT showing up for emergency calls. Is that really the best timing for that? During an emergency I doubt I would be retaining much of what the OT was telling me. The team doing follow up calls makes much more sense.
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Not all falls are what you might consider to be 'emergency' - often the person calls 911 to get assistance to get up - they are not injured badly but cannot get themselves up and they live alone. You would be surprised how often people call for this assistance, and refuse transport to hospital. So in those cases, it could be really helpful to see the actual environment to determine if small modifications might improve safety. In some cases, it is the best time to assess :)
 
So, there are differet types of paramedics, and in some areas, there are specific responders for repeat calls.
A person who has fallen may not need to go to the hospital

Example: someone who cannot get themselves in & out of bed, falls out of bed.
They are fine, just need to be put back into the bed.

An OT may be able to make recommendations to stop future falls.
 
Carolla said:
Not all falls are what you might consider to be 'emergency' - often the person calls 911 to get assistance to get up - they are not injured badly but cannot get themselves up and they live alone. You would be surprised how often people call for this assistance, and refuse transport to hospital. So in those cases, it could be really helpful to see the actual environment to determine if small modifications might improve safety. In some cases, it is the best time to assess :)
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I guess for me, my threshold for calling 911 is quite high, so having an OT show up based on that doesn't fit with what others may face.
 
If you fall out of bed at 2am, and your support worker isn't due until 9am, and you live alone or your partner is not strong, then, you do what you need to do. Paramedics know how to lift someone.
 
Pinga said:
If you fall out of bed at 2am, and your support worker isn't due until 9am, and you live alone or your partner is not strong, then, you do what you need to do. Paramedics know how to lift someone.
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So do nurses. They might not come immediately. If not injured badly enough to need to go to the hospital though, is being on the floor until a nurse can show up an emergency?
 
ChemGal said:
So do nurses. They might not come immediately. If not injured badly enough to need to go to the hospital though, is being on the floor until a nurse can show up an emergency?
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To many it is enough of a reason to call. Seniors especially can develop other problems when immobilized or in awkward positions - eg pressure injury, skin tears. Also dehydration may set in when people are fragile. Some people get themselves into more trouble when they try to get up - accidentally pull furniture over on themselves, for example. And many do have family, friends, nurses etc. who will be in to check on them.
 
Carolla said:
To many it is enough of a reason to call. Seniors especially can develop other problems when immobilized or in awkward positions - eg pressure injury, skin tears. Also dehydration may set in when people are fragile. Some people get themselves into more trouble when they try to get up - accidentally pull furniture over on themselves, for example. And many do have family, friends, nurses etc. who will be in to check on them.
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This is not something that I've heard of being a problem with anyone in my family (my sister used to be one to fall out of bed often, but she could get up). I'm just having issues picturing someone where they fall out of bed, not need treatment at a hospital, can't get up, but staying on the floor (inside, with blankets readily accessible due to being beside the bed) for a few hours until a nurse, someone from homecare, etc. can come isn't adequate.
 
My parents have a call 911 procedure, set up by their medical team. If either falls they call 911. Small town. Mom is heavy-Dad couldn't safely lift her, Dad is tall-mom walks with a cane-she can't lift him. Before their move into condo-either could have slipped and fell on back or front outside stairs, on stairs to the basement or getting in/out of tub. 911 can mean firefighter or ambulance-they decide while you are connected to operator. They lived 1 k from hospital-now probably 3. Both parents are mid 80s.
 
@ChemGal - What would it take to convince you that yes, there are legitimate reasons to call 911 which do not require a trip to the hospital?
 
Pinga said:
@ChemGal - What would it take to convince you that yes, there are legitimate reasons to call 911 which do not require a trip to the hospital?
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When it's actually being recommended, I'm not disagreeing to that.
Just trying to relate to it, it's possible my threshold is higher for calling than it really should be too, although I haven't gotten good feedback about what really needs a call.
It is also easy to forget about the differences of locations - rural areas won't have the same options as larger centers.
 
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