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Another sickening terrible event. I just heard the shooter is Australian

How does society combat this type of thing. How do you stop the spreading of vile ideas.
 
Heard from my Kiwi friend on the other board. One thing that she's questioning is where he got the gun. They have very strict gun laws and apparently less of a problem with black market guns than we do. Another thing that will probably be addressed as the investigation proceeds.
 
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Heard from my Kiwi friend on the other board. One thing that she's questioning is where he got the gun. They have very strict gun laws and apparently less of a problem with black market guns than we do. Another thing that will probably be addressed as the investigation proceeds.
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The shooter is sigh an Aussie - but he got the guns in New Zealand. After our Port Arthur shooting our gun laws were tightened considerably. Unfortunately, up until now, New Zealand has been unsuccessful in changing their gun laws. (But, it's normally such a peaceful country -they could not have anticipated this.) I'm sure, after listening to their Prime Minister, these stricter gun laws will soon apply.

What can be done to try and prevent terrorist attacks? This guy belonged to some far right social media sites -perhaps make it clear on these sites that there is a huge difference between free speech and hate speech. If hate speech was censored it might go some way to not giving them a platform to spread their hate?

The media generally has to accept some responsibility. All throughout yesterday we saw the terrorists own camera work as he proceeded to massacre innocent folks -with the sickening comment, "let's have some fun". It was repeated ad nauseam.

This might seem an odd thing to say, but behind so much hate is fear. What you don't understand, you fear. That is , it seems to me, why so many in society don't welcome change. Change is happening now, more than ever. Neighbourhoods are changing rapidly, and some don't welcome the change or find it easy.

We have to find a way to have these difficult conversations about change, and fear of difference. These seemingly disparate groups have to come together and have these conversations in an open way - then perhaps, in time, they'll get to appreciate they have more in common than they once thought..

Terrorism is murder - no matter which "tribe" you belong to. We are all members of the human race, so what we have in common needs to be emphasised.
 
The problem, which got by most regular internet users before - pre2016 - is that these far right and alt right sub groups use buzzwords, "dog whistle" words and memes/ symbolism to spread their speech. And it changes. It's not just obvious speech. Who knew the "ok" hand symbol is a white nationalist symbol now? Etc. they can deny and say that's ridiculous on platforms that call them out because it might seem innocuous but it's signalling to others who are in on the lingo. I think it's important to get educated about who the alt right and far right groups are and what they are spreading. It's on a spectrum, imo, with some people/ groups/ ideas, being "gateways" to going further down the rabbit hole.
 
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There’s only so far you can twist a mind into accepting the unacceptable before it breaks ...
  • Islamophobia has been exponentially inflamed by the 'Government' mass media since 9/11.
  • To justify the empire’s need to keep slaughtering human beings world wide.
  • Who happen to be walking around on top of oil and geostrategic locations.
In his manifesto the attacker explicitly stated that he chose Muslims as the group of immigrants to target because ...
  • “They are the most despised group of invaders in the West, attacking them receives the greatest level of support.”
The flames of Islamophobia have been fanned by 'Government' propagandists ...
  • Who need us not to care about the cold-blooded murder day in and day out of a million? Iraqis.
The Christchurch attack was indeed evil and horrific ...
  • It was no more evil or horrific than the mass murders routinely inflicted upon Muslims sanctioned by our own 'Government'.
 
We have to rise above tribalism - our governments can try to manipulate us - but, they're politicians, they wouldn't do it if they didn't think they'd succeed....... Ultimately, it's up to us to show them that tribalism won't work. It's too easy to blame politicians and big business - we all have to take an honest look at tribalism, fear and prejudice.
 
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