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KayTheCurler

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I recently realised that there are ebikes - never seen one in this small town though. Does anyone know anything about them? Looking for feedback of any relevant type.

My dad had a moped way back in my youth. What makes one thing a moped and another similar thing an ebike? I am pondering getting one to make it more enjoyable to go out and about with my man, who finds my walking speed aggravatingly slow. It would be handy for trips to the local park or to get the mail. Smaller than a mobility scooter and probably cheaper.
 
e-bikes usually have 3 settings-one as a normal bike, 2 as a pedal assist and 3 power whether you pedal or not. They are great for pedalling further with less effort, but require good balance. The is also a different type of mini scooter/motorcycle (think mini-vespa) that is classified as a bike for licensing and insurance. It does have pedals but in reality they are just to keep in in this class. You sit and there is a small platform for your feet-this type I have never tried.
 
I tried an e bike in Germany- they were available at my friends garage for customers who were waiting for their car to be fixed. It had several settings of power support when you were pedalling and biking a hill was really easy with it. It still was a bike and not a moped, so you had to pedal ( I never tried the highest setting though. The one thing getting used to was that it will still move you forward when you stop pedalling unless you shut it off, so you had to use the brakes a lot more intentionally to make the additional movement stop. So basically, starting to pedal initiates the motor and braking makes it stop.
 
I did noticed that there was a bit of a risk for accidents when I stopped at an intersection, then thought I could go but noticed another car coming. I had started to push the pedal slightly wich made the extra power kick in and had to slam the hand brakes or it would have pushed me out on the road. It takes a bit of getting used to.
 
I've noticed confusion with them here. In the city, they are allowed wherever bikes can go, but people will put in reports thinking they have to follow the rules of vehicles. Mostly issues of non-road shared use paths.
 
Just to share a different POV, my sister, who is both a long-time motorcycle rider and instructor, hates them. She thinks they're death traps. She says they share the road, but have none of the power to potentially accelerate out of danger.
 
Germany just made a decision not to allow e- scooters on the sidewalk because they can go 12 km/ h and do significant damage to a pedestrian.
 
Germany just made a decision not to allow e- scooters on the sidewalk because they can go 12 km/ h and do significant damage to a pedestrian.
You're referring to a mobility device and not something like an e-bike, right? Ie. In a large seniors home, I would expect to see e-scooters in the halls, but I wouldn't expect to see an e-bike being used indoors.
 
Germany just made a decision not to allow e- scooters on the sidewalk because they can go 12 km/ h and do significant damage to a pedestrian.
Or this?
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I wasn't even aware they had motorized scooters like these till I looked it up.
I would guess here these would follow bike bylaws? Would me they are actually allowed on the sidewalks unless there is different rules as for bikes it's wheel-sized based (or was, I should verify it wasn't changed). Means little kids can ride their bikes on the sidewalk.
 
Or this?
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I wasn't even aware they had motorized scooters like these till I looked it up.
I would guess here these would follow bike bylaws? Would me they are actually allowed on the sidewalks unless there is different rules as for bikes it's wheel-sized based (or was, I should verify it wasn't changed). Means little kids can ride their bikes on the sidewalk.
I assume it is this. Was on the radio, so didn’t see a picture. I am not sure how this applies to those other ones, forgot the name, for adults to stand on with legs together and steering by shifting weight.
 
Or this?
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I wasn't even aware they had motorized scooters like these till I looked it up.
I would guess here these would follow bike bylaws? Would me they are actually allowed on the sidewalks unless there is different rules as for bikes it's wheel-sized based (or was, I should verify it wasn't changed). Means little kids can ride their bikes on the sidewalk.
I assume it is this. Was on the radio, so didn’t see a picture. I am not sure how this applies to those other ones, forgot the name, for adults to stand on with legs together and steering by shifting weight.
I assume it is this. Was on the radio, so didn’t see a picture. I am not sure how this applies to those other ones, forgot the name, for adults to stand on with legs together and steering by shifting weight.
segways. Not sure what applies to them.
 
E scooters for mental support would be good and thus a ... faster thought pattern?

Naw! It wouldn't work because then we'd fall into the irrationality trap ... the most blown out prefer this ...
 
I have no idea what the laws/by-laws say about ebikes in my home town. We have bicycles, tricycles and a variety of mobility scooters using the roads and sidewalks already. Bikes are vehicles and can be on the road and should follow the rules for a car. Mobility scooters seemed to fall into a vague, undefined area. I have asked the RCMP and the Town Office what the rules are and they avoided giving a solid answer.

Hubby has headed to the city (for other reasons too) and will check out this company.

We may buy - and are leaning towards the convenience of the folding one and upgrading to the most powerful battery. Dreaming of following some of the old logging trails through the boreal forest in addition to using around campsites. If we are comfortable with using it around town we will do so - pick up the mail - go to the library etc..
 
Segway - Wikipedia

Apparently, in Ontario, they are considered a motorized vehicle, and must be used on the road, not a sidewalk.
I haven't heard of a bylaw here regarding them in general. I don't really see them around much, when I used to live by a mall there was one person who I think lived near there too and I would see him use it - it was one without a handle. He would use it on the sidewalk and mall but he wasn't really going any faster than walking pace so I so no issues.
I do know there's a company that uses them one what I'm fairly certain is a shared path.
 
What @BetteTheRed is talking about isn't a bylaw, it's the provincial Highway Traffic Act.
I'm unsure of any provincial laws here that affect sidewalks. Seems like there's enough people who will cite things where if it's reasonably clear, I think it would have come up.
 
Looked into it - there are some that are prohibited on sidewalks and highways provincially - personal transporters (includes segways), electric scooters, pocket bikes, golf carts, go carts, and motorized skateboards (I didn't know such a thing existed, but why not). There are permits that are granted at times though.
Mobility scooters - treated as a pedestrian, as it is seen as something for those with a disability, so no different than a wheelchair. I am glad to see that.
 
Do people absorb information regarding the law set out as guidelines for corruption to avoid?

Thus authoritarian tyranny as it runs off ... with your taxes to support the death of the entire thing ... and thus it goes in spiritual essence of things unseen as no body knows! Tis of the essence ... like a shadow in a hole or cave !
 
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