Lets Talk about the Holy Spirit

Luce NDs

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The Holy Spirit is a shadowy character bringing rest to those entering the trees and hanging out. Some will lose all thoughts as they drop off in siesta ... why some powerful folks hate rest ... profiteering stops? When powers rest is there a black mark on marketeering?

When going into the red line ... things may get heated as the heads of the secular land rage ...
 

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As always it all depends on how you read a hard story like Tuatha Danann ... in true celt ... the stone of scone ... bred for gnawing!

Then the greater the story the farther beyond the lesser understanding it may go as underhanded passion ...

Such is the cognisant dissonance in what might have started as a clearer situation ... Fuschan? Fusion and fishing are often misunderstood ... thus Selkies ... slippery folk ... they may slip over you like night and bring rest ... wherever you go for that.

It seems clear that it is a domain beyond us ... thus divine metaphor ...

It is rumored that the mediums are dippy ...
 

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For me, these are the 4 most important points about the iOP's issue:
(1) In 1 Corinthians Paul teaches that the kingdom of God depends on the demonstrable supernatural power of the Holy Spirit.
"But I will come to you soon, if the Lord wills, and I will find out not the [God] of these arrogant people, but their power; For the kingdom of God depends not on [God] talk, but on power (1 Corinthians 4:10-20)."

(2) The new believer does not simply receive the Holy Spirit by an act of faith; the initial work of the Spirit is evidence by a supernatural demonstration of power:
"My speech and my proclamation were not with plausible words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit and of power. so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on the power of God (1 Corinthians 2:5-6)."

(3) The demonstration envisaged as evidence of the initial work of the Holy Spirit is more than "the fruit of the Spirit;" it includes miracles:
"Are you so foolish! Having started with the Spirit, are you now ending with the flesh? Did you experience so much for nothing? Did God supply you with the Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the Law or by your believing what you heard (Galatians 3:4-5)?"
True, the kingdom of God can manifest as the fruit of the Spiri (Romans t4:17) but but beyond that, it depends on this display of ,miraculous power. The pattern of the Spirit's initial work in the Book of Acts suggests that the intended demonstration of Spirit power includes (but is not limited to)) speaking in tongues (See Acts 2:4 10:44-47:10:5-6)).

(4) In effect, modern Christianity dumbs down the mystical and experiential basis for claiming the Spirit's intiial work of grace to avoid the pitfalls of subjectivity and the resulting risk of fanaticism and faith precariously anchored to holy emotions and miracle claims.. So we should not whine that, to judge by modern Christianity, God's work has lost its ancient power. But the church would be better off embracing these subjective problems than domesticating the faith into a moral system and a head trip. The doctrine of the Trinity has done a lot of harm, not because it is false, but because it is too abstract to reflect the vibrant New Testament experiential reality of the Holy Spirit.
 
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