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History guides “prophesy” because it’s a pretty good indicator of what human behaviour will be in the future. Mythologized historical stories have timeless quality that make it possible for us to see those same behaviours happening, or potentially happening in different times and places.
Which is still a different concept from prophecy as a revelation handed down from on high or a psychic vision.
And so, I don’t believe that the fundamentalist view is what we were intended to learn from the bible.
I meant, whatever we’re meant to learn from the texts of the bible...I don’t believe the fundamentalists are teaching it. Often, I think they are teaching what not to learn and there’s something sinister about it, actually. Especially the bible guns n’ god types...they are using the bible as a tool of abuse. I do think we can learn from all kinds of writing from all kinds of eras and genres and places and people and traditions. The fundamentalists don’t. I think they’ve been misled - many of them were vulnerable and coerced - and they seem to be locked into a mindset that isn’t helpful to say the least.Is there supposed to be an "only" in there? I think we are intended to learn from the Bible, but not just the Bible.
So true!I think they are teaching what not to learn and there’s something sinister about it, actually. Especially the bible guns n’ god types...they are using the bible as a tool of abuse.
What is your evidence for biblical prophets in biblical times doing this? Dietary laws? The Delphi Oracle? Moses drunkenness? Or is this just what you think but unsubstantiated with facts?And i’m joking...or half joking...about weed. You don’t need it. I don’t need it...i’ve been a daydreamer as long as I can remember. But it does seem to spark imagination and creativity in a lot of people...maybe helps them get into that state of daydreamy fascination more readily, since we grow out of that more as adults. (Do you remember being fascinated by everything and being in the “zone” when you were a kid? Taking everything in like a sponge.) The Rastafarians sure seem to think it helps. It’s sacred to them. I still do think that back in biblical times, like it has been with a lot of ancient peoples, it was probably pretty normal, and in many cases, respected, for people to experience altered states - whether from plants or fungus growing in the ground, or mental differences in their brains (psychosis), or sleep deprivation (I’m convinced that was a thing more than it is today because they had way more reason for sleepless nights) and they would’ve been seen as prophets.
Because they were human. I don’t have evidence I have experience of not sleeping for three days and it was the belly of the whale, you could say... And because so many ancient cultures used natural substances that produced prophetic insights. Mescaline, peyote, mushrooms, marijuana, ayhausca ... those things did not have a stigma and were often seen as sacred. Where’s proof that they didn’t use anything or were not in altered states? is probably a better question. We shouldn’t be holding them to current expectations of social morality in that regard.What is your evidence for biblical prophets in biblical times doing this? Dietary laws? The Delphi Oracle? Moses drunkenness? Or is this just what you think but unsubstantiated with facts?