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How does one "choose" a Belief System?

BetteTheRed

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From another thread, quoting myself,

"...A more interesting question, to me, is "can you choose your belief system"? I don't think it's possible. I believe what I believe, not because I chose it, but because this is the vision that life has unfolded before me, based on what I have received via my senses in the past, and how my brain has organized that information. And I'm not entirely talking about our five physical senses. I believe we have at least one more sense - call it intuition, spirit, inner vision - that also informs this logical process in my brain."

Also, if I use the words BS in this particular thread, I'm usually referring to belief system...that is not the case everywhere.
 

Luce NDs

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It all depends on how one avoid determinates as these can cause incidents in the dark ... kohl a' void antes?
 

blackbelt1961

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can you choose your belief system?


I think that is quite a loaded question, assuming we are speaking of spiritual beliefs here. I believe that atheists have some very good merit when they state that by default a child is born an atheist. As we develop and grow we are influenced by many external sources like parents, school, friends, events that happen in our lives ect. We are the sum of our experiences.

So yes we can I believe choose our belief systems, but then again, is the belief we choose simply tradition for us or is it actual Truth of reality?


I was raised Catholic in an Italian family, was it the truth of reality for me? , no it wasn’t, it was tradition. Was I exposed to the idea of God? Sure I was, we all are through various means. Did I believe it? No not really, I wasn’t sure, I was agnostic on question of God.


So what happened to me?, I went searching on my own when my wife at 48and had her 1st heart attack, it was the first time in my life that I felt and realized that we are really not in control. It was a good years journey for me, reading and reading all kinds of books on spirituality.

To make a long story short, one day I experienced Gods presences and that was the beginning of my Belief as reality .


So


Did I choose God?, did God choose me ? or did we choose each other?


hmmmmmm
 

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I'm not sure we choose our belief system. It's a product of personality, upbringing, education, life experience, and so on. I certainly never chose to go the road I did, I just kind of followed it as I found it. Being a naturally curious person, I sought to learn about anything and everything that interested me. The rest kind of just followed from there.

Now, my religion, that is how I choose to express that belief system in community, that is for sure a choice, but it is based on belief system which naturally narrows one's choices. I chose UU'ism because it was the faith that best accommodated my personal belief system, not because it is my belief system. Pentecostal, RC, Islam, etc. never entered the picture because I just can't see how I might fit in. Bahai'ism, some Buddhist sects, and liberal/progressive Christian denominations like the UCCan did because there might be room for my BS there.
 

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There is that old quote - I don't know by whom - "we see what we believe". I think this is true to a large extent - we place our experiences into our belief context - which often has been learned/assumed/chosen in childhood. Some people go on to learn and question those belief systems, growing into new or revised BSs - some do not, perhaps because questioning/critical thinking/exploration is not part of that original assumed BS, perhaps because of their personal nature, perhaps for who knows what reasons. For myself, I would say my beliefs have evolved considerably.
 

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Its most certainly true that Beliefs are extremely powerful , people and nations kill for them. No wonder Scripture teaches that our battle is in the mind and not against one an other. Control the mind and one can extremely influence and or control the will.
 

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We are taught right and wrong and I think this is the beginning of our belief system.
 

Luce NDs

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Can one be conditioned to hate ...

Tis numb eh boy ... to not be able to see through it ...
 

Pavlos Maros

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From another thread, quoting myself,

"...A more interesting question, to me, is "can you choose your belief system"? I don't think it's possible. I believe what I believe, not because I chose it, but because this is the vision that life has unfolded before me, based on what I have received via my senses in the past, and how my brain has organized that information. And I'm not entirely talking about our five physical senses. I believe we have at least one more sense - call it intuition, spirit, inner vision - that also informs this logical process in my brain."

Also, if I use the words BS in this particular thread, I'm usually referring to belief system...that is not the case everywhere.
 

Pavlos Maros

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From another thread, quoting myself,

"...A more interesting question, to me, is "can you choose your belief system"? I don't think it's possible. I believe what I believe, not because I chose it, but because this is the vision that life has unfolded before me, based on what I have received via my senses in the past, and how my brain has organized that information. And I'm not entirely talking about our five physical senses. I believe we have at least one more sense - call it intuition, spirit, inner vision - that also informs this logical process in my brain." .
It is a fact that people choose how they worship a god, else they wouldn't be so many cults/religions. That is what one would refer to as a belief system. (following the tenets and doctrines of their particular flavour of cult) However they never choose to believe in a god per se, that was indoctrinated/inculcated into them long before they chose which way to worship.
 

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Hi,

I was born into a Calvinist belief system. It shaped my early imagination to conform with social expectations. By puberty I began to ask questions. These were rarely answered. Either in Church or School. Indeed, I spent much of my school time standing in corners or being otherwise punished for insubordination.

Now as my maturity takes root, I am happy to say that I am pretty much free of all systems. These include Church and State. Paul Tillich speaks about the courage to be. Most find courage to be by being incorporated and subordinated to some belief system. Few find courage by stepping out of all external constraint to explore the deep potential of their own human being in creation.

I am aware that this media constitutes a belief system. I freely use it but wholly reject its totalizing trajectory and would be happy to live in a world without it. A world of children at play under a blue sky, parents dedicated to their health and happiness, and communities resistant to the incursion and seductions of power seeking power.

George
 

Mendalla

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Most find courage to be by being incorporated and subordinated to some belief system.
I think there are two ways to understand belief system, though.

You are viewing as an external set of beliefs with which we align ourselves or that is imposed upon us. I agree with that.

But, IMHO, it can also mean simply the set of beliefs that we hold internally.

IOW, there are both internal and external belief systems. I would also argue that we all, to some degree, have an internal one even if it is not aligned with any external one.

So I would add "external" to your "incorporated and subordinated to some belief system".

My current internal belief system is very much my own and does not align with any external belief system that I know of, which is why I am not a member of any given sect, faith, denomination, etc. And, like you, that applies to my political beliefs and philosophical outlook as much as my religious beliefs.
 

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