Election Wonderpoll 2019

Who are you intending to vote for on October 21?

  • Bloc Quebecois (okay, I think mgagnon is the Quebecer on here but, hey, for c

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Conservative Party of Canada

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Liberal Party of Canada

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • New Democratic Party

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • People's Party of Canada

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Not voting

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Other (discuss below)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    17
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Because Alberta often gets screwed over when it comes to federal stuff.

Because it's not one vote per person to determine the leader.
Last election, my MP had the most number of votes out of all the conservative candidates - that should say something there.
Based on the 2016 census my riding had the largest population, it was new last year but they still don't attempt to make it even. I doubt Quebec would ever have the riding with the largest population,
Oh...Really? I think Alberta has had plenty of federal support. Stephen Harper was from Alberta. Several of his cabinet were from Alberta. Andrew Scheer is from Alberta. Rona Ambrose was from Alberta. Jason Kenny is, obviously, from Alberta - and he used to be a federal Harper crony. Michelle Rempel is from Alberta. The majority of people serving in Ottawa are from the prairies, and Ontario. A few from Quebec. Less coastal representation on either coast. If you want to talk about underrepresentation...try the BC west coast which is not only a critical Pacific Rim transport hub for international trade, but also critical to the planet’s ocean ecosystem...with almost no representation. Elizabeth May is the strongest voice from out here, and she’s pretty fallible herself, as much as I think she’s a nice person. Singh, originally from Ontario but now represents Burnaby, BC - but can anyone remember anything he has done? He seems like a nice guy but he’s pretty unremarkable.
 

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Remember those that have it wish fore Moor! Builds the mons as a cush area ... be the death of warring personalities!
 

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Oh...Really? I think Alberta has had plenty of federal support. Stephen Harper was from Alberta. Several of his cabinet were from Alberta. Andrew Scheer is from Alberta. Rona Ambrose was from Alberta. Jason Kenny is, obviously, from Alberta - and he used to be a federal Harper crony. Michelle Rempel is from Alberta. The majority of people serving in Ottawa are from the prairies, and Ontario. A few from Quebec. Less coastal representation on either coast. If you want to talk about underrepresentation...try the BC west coast which is not only a critical Pacific Rim transport hub for international trade, but also critical to the planet’s ocean ecosystem...with almost no representation. Elizabeth May is the strongest voice from out here, and she’s pretty fallible herself, as much as I think she’s a nice person. Singh, originally from Ontario but now represents Burnaby, BC - but can anyone remember anything he has done? He seems like a nice guy but he’s pretty unremarkable.
So what's the reasoning for a new riding to have ~50% more people than the average?
 

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At issue is that the ridings do not have the same number of voters. Our Toronto riding has a larger population than PEI which has four MPs. I get it. They have to spread MPs around. But when yo live in a big city you get much less representation
 

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Correction as I checked latest numbers. PEI outnumbers my riding by 10,000. Their votes count for a lot more than mine though. They are electing four people. Me one

It is not proportional representation that causes the problem. Not sure if that would help or not

It is our need to try to equally represent places that have small populations in our widely populated country

7 million people more or less live in the GTA. Almost 25% of the country. But obviously we don’t have 25% of the seats. I get that. It feels fair. But it means that some votes count for more than others. It is what it is

As for Alberta. Once again we have a liberal government that acts like they wish Alberta would disappear. Not surprised to see great dissatisfaction
 

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Correction as I checked latest numbers. PEI outnumbers my riding by 10,000. Their votes count for a lot more than mine though. They are electing four people. Me one

It is not proportional representation that causes the problem. Not sure if that would help or not

It is our need to try to equally represent places that have small populations in our widely populated country

7 million people more or less live in the GTA. Almost 25% of the country. But obviously we don’t have 25% of the seats. I get that. It feels fair. But it means that some votes count for more than others. It is what it is

As for Alberta. Once again we have a liberal government that acts like they wish Alberta would disappear. Not surprised to see great dissatisfaction
If I compare the same years, we had more than 10,000 than they did. The difference now would likely be even larger considering population trends.
The whole point of changing the ridings was to make things appear to be more equal, but if so, a new riding shouldn't still be one of the largest.
 

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Correction as I checked latest numbers. PEI outnumbers my riding by 10,000. Their votes count for a lot more than mine though. They are electing four people. Me one

It is not proportional representation that causes the problem. Not sure if that would help or not

It is our need to try to equally represent places that have small populations in our widely populated country

7 million people more or less live in the GTA. Almost 25% of the country. But obviously we don’t have 25% of the seats. I get that. It feels fair. But it means that some votes count for more than others. It is what it is

As for Alberta. Once again we have a liberal government that acts like they wish Alberta would disappear. Not surprised to see great dissatisfaction
Every Canadian should think about what is best for all of Canada and not just about their own region. Otherwise you have a NIMBY attitude. Having more regions represented only has the advantage that more issues can be brought forward that non locals are not aware of. Big cities are loud and known enough that their local problems are not overlooked.
 

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True. But our votes are not equally counted. I get what the issue is. And for rural areas, the one person elected covers a massive amount of geography which adds a different set of issues
 

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True. But our votes are not equally counted. I get what the issue is. And for rural areas, the one person elected covers a massive amount of geography which adds a different set of issues
Life is complex but those wishing control (avarice) say it is simple as some politicians! Thus the NIMBY ---> nimbus and that clouded sensation!
 

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Every Canadian should think about what is best for all of Canada and not just about their own region. Otherwise you have a NIMBY attitude. Having more regions represented only has the advantage that more issues can be brought forward that non locals are not aware of. Big cities are loud and known enough that their local problems are not overlooked.
My riding has more than the city. I would guess at least 50% do not live in the same city as me.
 

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My riding has more than the city. I would guess at least 50% do not live in the same city as me.
Sound like Elgin-Middlesex-London here. Covers a small part of the South end of London and the city of St. Thomas but also all the rural areas of Middlesex County south and east of London as well as Elgin County right down to the Lake Erie shoreline. Basically you've got a city and part of another as well as parts of two counties all in the same riding.

And that does have a political impact. In the 2018 provincial election it's the only riding of the four that cover London that went Progressive Conservative.
 

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I was wondering if anyone has heard any statistics on how people/ Canadians ( at the last election?) made decisions. How many vote what they always vote, how many voted to avoid a worse outcome/ to get rid of Harper- like how many consider the first past the post rule or just vote for the party that matches their convictions?
It would be interesting to know.
 
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There are people who are working towards a green economy in Alberta.

I'm torn about the pipeline issue and about the fossil fuels thing. We cannot just shut off the taps. We are all still dependent on them. In the meantime, we can find greener ways to run the industry while finding replacements.
Yes, but I think Alberta could do even more. We should offer our crown land for free, in say, 6 acre parcels to people like Kimmio and mrs. anteater and everyone in Canada who is anti fossil fuels.

The reason being I am really tired of the hypocrisy. Let them live there for free for the rest of their lives. The only stipulation being that they live fossil fuel free.

Then in the -30 night, when there is no wind or solar energy, they could light their little grass hut on fire as a signal for a helicopter to come in and fly them to safety and a lesson well learned.
 

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Yes, but I think Alberta could do even more. We should offer our crown land for free, in say, 6 acre parcels to people like Kimmio and mrs. anteater and everyone in Canada who is anti fossil fuels.

The reason being I am really tired of the hypocrisy. Let them live there for free for the rest of their lives. The only stipulation being that they live fossil fuel free.

Then in the -30 night, when there is no wind or solar energy, they could light their little grass hut on fire as a signal for a helicopter to come in and fly them to safety and a lesson well learned.
It’s sad to see that all you can muster is being cynical, instead of informing yourself. But seeing you contributions here, it doesn’t really surprise.
 

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I agree @Pontifex Geronimo 13

Certainly people who have not experienced -40 need to experience it to fully form their opinions.

I do think more can be done to develop green energy in Alberta. It can be done while we are using oil and gas. Turning off the taps right away is not realistic.

Man, I'm agreeing with you a lot lately.......I'm not sure what that means.
 

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I agree @Pontifex Geronimo 13

Certainly people who have not experienced -40 need to experience it to fully form their opinions.

I do think more can be done to develop green energy in Alberta. It can be done while we are using oil and gas. Turning off the taps right away is not realistic.

Man, I'm agreeing with you a lot lately.......I'm not sure what that means.
Is it any colder than the arctic?
 
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