----Charles Ewing Smith 2016 “The Demolition of Truth--Psychologists Examine 9/11

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There's room for improvement, for sure, but people didn't always get to voluntarily participate in their government. That was progress over time. If it's bad, it's because people got too comfortable and stopped civic participation. That's our own fault, if we became apathetic (if we knew how blessed we were we'd be wearing sackcloth and ashes, someone said - in other words we wouldn't be taking democracy for granted). We employ the government, we are the government. Who you have to worry about are the corporate billionaires - unelected powers - who are greedy, and who have rigged the system to benefit themselves with no accountability. (They had to utilize libertarian principles to not be held accountable to laws, too...that's partly the fault of libertarians.)



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@Kimmio Laughterlove ... back to the topic of this thread:

Forget for one moment everything you’ve been told about September 11, 2001. Instead let’s ask ourselves one question: What was 9/11? A terrorist atrocity? An attack on America? The first salvo in a new war? “A day that changed everything”?

The question may seem simple, but how we answer it is of vital importance. It determines how we proceed with our investigation of that day. And once you strip away the emotional rhetoric and the fear-inducing imagery, we’re left with a simple truth: 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: Follow the money.

This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail.

9/11 Trillions: Follow the Money (2015)

CLICK HERE for complete hyperlinked transcript for this documentary
 
Can one disaffect themselves from adverse plans, schemes and agendas that are sometimes below the line?

Is an affect something that one can voluntarily not become affiliated and thus ... become dis afflicted?

It is all words in a jumble ... as Nietzsche stated ... all chaos ... we just don;t know ... thus stirring emotions into a point of curiosity and interest about "why did that happen?"

Increasingly ... we don;t know! Tis national security ...
 
This is so 2008. No it’s not of ‘vital’ importance. There are issues of far greater importance right now.

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So the 'war of terror on terror' is over?

No vital importance for North American 'Leaders' to take the slightest responsibility for blowing a hole through the Middle East, loosing mayhem across significant swaths of the planet, or helping release the forces that would create the first true terrorist state of modern history?

No vital importance for North American 'Leaders' in any official capacity to take responsibility for creating the conditions that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands, possibly a million or more people?

No vital importance for North American 'Leaders' to take the slightest responsibility for turning so many in the Greater Middle East into internal or external refugees, destroying nations, and bringing unbelievable pain to countless human beings.

In all these years, no act—not of torture, nor murder, nor the illegal offshore imprisonment of innocent people nor death delivered from the air or the ground, nor the slaughter of wedding parties, nor the killing of children ...

Nothing seems capable of blunting your sense that 'conspiracy minded people like me' and not the 'indispensable leaders' are what is destroying our 'exceptional democratic process of staggering goodness and innocence'.
 
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Rita Fee said: "So the 'war of terror on terror' is over?"

That is frightening in itself ... akin to forgetting past errors ... so we can do it all again ... an odd resurrection as it comes up again out of nowhere ...

It was once said that our mind is nowhere ... due to the fact it was something we are uncertain about as a quantum particle ... or at least a participle! Thus it is gone due to fear of the emotion ... or the emotion of fearing thoughts? Ego items are weird ... like those ink blot trysts ... some can last all night as Nyx 'd! That's a dark hole ... like a well ... holein the ground?

A small point or displaced period ... mis't?
 
How many fricken conspiracy theories do you subscribe to? :rolleyes:
What do you call it when you hold two opposing concepts in your mind that mutually exclude each other?

“1984's fictional account of a state which imposes cognitive dissonance on its citizens to control their perception of reality?

It is summed up in the statement, “War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.”

1984 has turned from fiction to reality by NATO seeking endless wars to overthrow any nation getting in its way of total global domination.

He also said they were wrong in equating the military alliance to a “war machine...

“If that’s the basis for the protests, it’s actually based on lack of knowledge. Our organization is a peace movement."


Oh wait! That’s not the 1984 Ministry of Truth speaking, that was NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen!

NATO is a “peace movement”!

NATO dropping of the most bombs since WWII on Yugoslavia in the early ’90s was actually just blanketing the area with peace droppings.

NATO’s peace initiative in Libya, i.e. just exercising their Responsibility to Protect, using the tools of peace such as missiles, bombs, etc.

NATO’s decades long Afghanistan mission is “spreading peace” near and far. The indigenous folks just don't understand Democracy.

On-going U.S. and NATO supported march towards peace in Syria, with assistance from many of Syria’s friends such as Saudi Arabia?

Syria’s leader, Assad, just doesn’t seem to get it that War is Peace and peace is what is being thrust upon him and his country.

Why should Russia be concerned about the Aegis missile systems being deployed around them, it is merely a “friendship ring of peace”.

Let us remind the millions of citizens of Iran to recognize that the debilitating sanctions being imposed upon them, will bring peace!

Reminder: War is Peace.

“The object of waging a war is always to be in a better position in which to wage another war”

NATO and friends/partners are even now preparing their peace offerings and delivery tools.

Because they fully understand their responsibility to protect YOUR DEMOCRACY!

“Everything faded into mist. The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth.”
 
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That’s not what I am saying. I’m saying that it’s not a priority right now, today. While conspiracy theorists are all working diligently to piece together rumours on the internet about something that happened 18 years ago, there are things happening today - no shortage of injustices now - that need people’s attention...so perhaps the distraction from today is not helping? Maybe the “deep state” wants you distracted from current events, from helping going forward, from being part of the solution to the world’s problems... and maybe they want you not voting so they can keep power... while you sleuth out the rumours.o_O
 
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Maybe the “deep state” wants you distracted from current events, and maybe they want you not voting so they can keep power... while you sleuth out the rumours.
Maybe the deep state wants you to focus all your energy on 'trump derangement' so you don't sleuth out the 'facts' behind the rumors.
 
Maybe some people don’t give a fk about the “deep state” talk and they actually see the priorities in front of them that are not all obscured by conspiratorial jargon.
 
Did you mean to put that song in the Canada Day thread?

Here is a better one for either ...

29 March 2002
[commenting before playing Call It Democracy]

"I had the opportunity, a couple of summers ago, in July, to play at the Canada Day celebrations in Ottawa. I was tempted to play this song, Chretien was sitting there and everything!"

Call It Democracy -- Bruce Cockburn

Padded with power here they come
International loan sharks backed by the guns
Of market hungry military profiteers
Whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared
With the blood of the poor

Who rob life of its quality
Who render rage a necessity
By turning countries into labour camps
Modern slavers in drag as champions of freedom

Sinister cynical instrument
Who makes the gun into a sacrament --
The only response to the deification
Of tyranny by so-called "developed" nations'
Idolatry of ideology

North South East West
Kill the best and buy the rest
It's just spend a buck to make a buck
You don't really give a flying f***
About the people in misery

IMF dirty MF
Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there's one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt

See the paid-off local bottom feeders
Passing themselves off as leaders
Kiss the ladies shake hands with the fellows
Open for business like a cheap bordello

And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy

See the loaded eyes of the children too
Trying to make the best of it the way kids do
One day you're going to rise from your habitual feast
To find yourself staring down the throat of the beast
They call the revolution

IMF dirty MF
Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there's one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt
 
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Here's another one ...

The Trouble With Normal Lyrics

Strikes across the frontier and strikes for higher wage
Planet lurches to the right as ideologies engage
Suddenly it's repression, moratorium on rights
What did they think the politics of panic would invite?
Person in the street shrugs -- "Security comes first"
But the trouble with normal is it always gets worse

Callous men in business costume speak computerese
Play pinball with the third world trying to keep it on its knees
Their single crop starvation plans put sugar in your tea
And the local third world's kept on reservations you don't see
"It'll all go back to normal if we put our nation first"
But the trouble with normal is it always gets worse

Fashionable fascism dominates the scene
When the ends don't meet it's easier to justify the means
Tenants get the dregs and the landlords get the cream
As the grinding devolution of the democratic dream
Brings us men in gas masks dancing while the shells burst
The trouble with normal is it always gets worse

"That song came from the time of neo-conservatism, when governments supported business at the cost of lives and nobody gave a s**t. We have since moved on to neo-liberalism, when governments support business at the cost of lives and nobody gives a s**t; and I see we're moving on to neo-feudalism, that's the service economy coming at you. We will all serve. I'm not quite sure who we're serving. There's a sort of mystery there; are we serving Bill Gates? I think not, he's too visible. Somebody else? Maybe you're sitting right here (in the audience). Are you out there? f*** off, if you are. (positive audience response) And if you're not, well we missed a grand opportunity to level with each other." - Bruce Cockburn
 
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Trump derangement? Trump was already deranged. :barefoot:

Trump Derangement Syndrome:

In the advanced stages of the disease, the afflicted lose touch with reality. Opinion is unmoored from fact. Life resembles a dark fairy tale in which the villain – Trump – is an amalgam of all the worst tyrants in history, past and present, while the heroes –Trump's critics – are akin to the resistance fighters of World War II.

TDS victims routinely compare Trump to Hitler: Time magazine ran an opinion piece that asked "Just how similar is Donald Trump to Hitler?" The answer: "The comparison between Hitler and Trump is so poignant" because "both men represent their personal character as the antidote to all social and political problems."

Since Hitler has been dead for more than 70 years, though, victims may feel the need for a more potent bogeyman, a tyrant with more currency. And they've found one in Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom they insist ordered a hacking campaign to help Trump win the election.

When asked for evidence around the conspiracy theory that Putin's alleged machinations had any effect on the election and unable to come up with a coherent answer, TDS victims will then attack the evidence seeker of wasting time giving a f*** about the deep state instead of prioritizing their giving a f***s around the 'normal democratically approved' conspirtatorial jargon of the day ... we must all conspire to overthrow Trump - by whatever means possible - because the end will justify the means.

Sound at all familiar?

Paraphrasing from ...
 
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