Am I Now Being As So Atheist ?

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I am not being as believing. So I am being as questioning?
I am not being as bound. So I am being as free?
I am not being as fixed mind. So I am being as open mind?
I am not being as authority. So I am being as voluntary?
I am not being as irresponsible. So I am being as responsible?
I am not being as archist. So I am being as anarchist?

Atheists dare to question. Mind-set believers dare not.

Atheists do not do religious, dogmatic obedience. Only religious “assumed-authorities” are offended by that.

Neither believers, nor their 'God', have any authority over Atheists. I am So Atheist!

For the sake of not trespassing in the ID erroneous zone - please respect my new label.

But on the other side ... in keeping with the Spirit of Being ... it is of no matter ... Rita
 

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I am not being as believing. So I am being as questioning?
I am not being as bound. So I am being as free?
I am not being as fixed mind. So I am being as open mind?
I am not being as authority. So I am being as voluntary?
I am not being as irresponsible. So I am being as responsible?
I am not being as archist. So I am being as anarchist?

Atheists dare to question. Mind-set believers dare not.

Atheists do not do religious, dogmatic obedience. Only religious “assumed-authorities” are offended by that.

Neither believers, nor their 'God', have any authority over Atheists. I am So Atheist!

For the sake of not trespassing in the ID erroneous zone - please respect my new label.

But on the other side ... in keeping with the Spirit of Being ... it is of no matter ... Rita
I see a few things differently. I would say...

- True freedom's found only in Christ.
- Faith's responsible, not irresponsible.
- Believers absolutely can question.
- Everyone is invited to come and worship God.
- God, who's Sovereign, has authority over everyone.
 

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I have found true freedom in participation with the divine nature of Being.

I am an individual personality expressing the character of my being in the capacity of Being.

These words are not belief.
These words are not religion.
These words are not science.
These words are not material.
These words are not be all end all.

So ... Atheist is just as good a word as any for a word-ly ID.

I am now an Atheist.
 

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Jesus escaped as light leaving a shadow of his former self ... hidden in des crypt form!

How errs and aeres impact humanity en Maas!
 

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You know, if I am reading this rather poetic language right, this is not dissimilar from my thinking when I started placing myself in the atheist camp a while back. Still no sure it fits me, though. "Atheist" still has a kind of definitiveness to it that doesn't suit me. "Agnostic" is still probably better but given that current belief leans to no God, I guess "atheist agnostic" fits? Not sure what happened to my pantheism. My deep and joyful connection to my universe seems to have taken a hit somewhere along the way.
 

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I am exploring Atheism (and non-literal Theism).

I have observed that extreme Atheists are often as irrational as extreme Theists.

In fact, I am sometimes stunned by the wholesale prejudice that many extreme Atheists harbor.

Often their overbearing disdain for theism blinds and deafens them to their own "triggers".

It makes complete sense, though.

It's overwhelming to imagine how much suffering, disability, death, and general destruction has been intentionally imposed over the aeons by those under the spell of (literal) Theism.

It is also rage against any potentially non-critical thinking; especially if it results in 'followers'.

I am of the opinion some (but not all) extreme Atheists live in genuinely disabling levels of pain and fear.

Unfortunately for all, this tends to manifest itself in the form of philosophical bigotry.

Bigots are rarely able to see and hear the object/s of their bigotry.

Just Look at the current political climate.

So perhaps then I am a 'Spiritual' Atheist ... but I will identify as a skeptic and an Atheist FIRST.

The 'Spiritual' ... results from ongoing personal examination of the world inside of me and outside of me.

It has been of utmost importance to me to separate what I 'believe' I know to be true from what I theorize might be true. If I don't have the means to properly test a theory, it remains speculation.

This does not negate my own experiential 'known but not empirically verifiable' truth.

That being said, it seems to me (a layman when it comes to religious studies), that the fundamental essence of most spiritual and religious philosophies reflects, generally, what I have personally concluded to be true.

Unfortunately truth is often heavily idolized and more heavily bastardized.

I can't help but wonder if it is simply "Spiritual Illiteracy" (the inability to recognize spiritual symbols as such; including words, which are nothing but symbols) that actually divides our human being at the most fundamental level.

So ... it is this 'God' of division that I do not believe in and will not to be bound to.

And I still imagine that we can transform our world by consciously co-creating a better one.

This is what I am dreaming of.
 

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Compared to determinants ... I remain indeterminate ... as some of the absolute crap that the determinants fire out as flaming missals ... often dismissive when in depth studies! Authorities hate being looked at that close ... like revealing their financial statuses is as hard as Venus carved in stone ... perhaps abstractly realistic art ... thou is!

I'm not sure yet ... until further out and looking back at myself in reflective mode ... some defy going that distance ... that last 9 yod thingy ... resembles 9 muses ... or cat 've nein tales ... no myth atoll! Underdeveloped character traits ...
 

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You know, if I am reading this rather poetic language right, this is not dissimilar from my thinking when I started placing myself in the atheist camp a while back. Still no sure it fits me, though. "Atheist" still has a kind of definitiveness to it that doesn't suit me. "Agnostic" is still probably better but given that current belief leans to no God, I guess "atheist agnostic" fits? Not sure what happened to my pantheism. My deep and joyful connection to my universe seems to have taken a hit somewhere along the way.
Remember when I was 'undefinitive' ... I abhor labels ... but for the sake of conversations they seem to be required to some degree. I am definitely more of a skeptic than a believer ... so Atheist in a word feels most 'likely' for me. It may be possible that the universe in and of itself is not particularly joyful these days.
 

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Remember when I was 'undefinitive' ... I abhor labels ... but for the sake of conversations they seem to be required to some degree. I am definitely more of a skeptic than a believer ... so Atheist in a word feels most 'likely' for me. It may be possible that the universe in and of itself is not particularly joyful these days.
I have a Christian Physicist acquaintance that declares that nature follows laws ... so god must ... he still has not reconciled wit unreal (abstract) numbers and where they reside ... quantum space by chance? Einstein suggested such domains had to up, down, right, left, back or front or ins and outs ... leaving all daemons entrenched in heaven ... to the disdain of of the wholly ghouli ... working the net at the other end of the frigid pool ... giving indication of Canada's sacred gammos ... further north the night reaches to the noon pool! You can enter it at the office water fount ...
 

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I abhor labels
I find them problematic, too. People want to stick the simplest possible ones on everyone and people are simply not that simple. Any label I assign myself is a usually a bit of a "best guess" and may or may not fit with conventional definitions of the word.

I am definitely more of a skeptic than a believer
See, that's why I lean to agnostic. My understanding of "atheist" is still that there is a definite proposition there, namely, "There is no God." FI am not actually sure I can give unqualified affirmation to that proposition any more than I can to "there is a God."

Agnostic, with it's implication of not being able to "know" metaphysical truth for certain and treating them largely as a subjective matter of faith, is a better fit to the degree that I am a questioner and a "seeker" (which is my username on another board) and don't like affirming propositions that can't be tested. I would rather ask more questions than take a quickie answer. But that's me and my understanding of things. You're entitled to your own.
 

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Agnostic in my studies is akin to scientist ... people who take theories of everything and attempt to search out minor truths about it ...

There was a movie about this ... entangling St Even Oching and Black Holes! St John's tunnel vision as common lapse ...

A blind pons ... or that thing suspended to the bottom of the brain ... it could cause those entering to take a turn around in the area of the Vagas t've nerves ...
 

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There is a statement made that the human psyche will not accept pure intelligence (data?) it must be interred in a myth story or in negative form a dark story ... a wild Prince from the alternate side of the screen ... Farci? Be the death of meis!
 

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@Mendalla ... I chose Atheist because the word 'God' is not proof of the existence of 'God'.

All sincere truth-seekers eventually conclude that 'God' was probably not originally intended to refer to a fictitious white-bearded wizard that lives just outside of the known universe; but, rather, to the infinite and eternal universe itself.

Human Being is Conscious of the Universe ... this in turn gives us ample opportunity to consciously make substantial contribution to the well-being of all that exists within our ever-expanding sphere of awareness and influence ... by being 'present' on Earth.

It is unfortunate that many members of our human being don't recognize the ancient spiritual symbols (like "God" and "Self") as simply that ... symbols.

  • Fundamental spiritual illiteracy is the most significant reason that life-threatening agendas have been able to flourish virtually unrecognized and unchallenged. The masses, being brainwashed, hypnotized, and deeply confused; are easily divided, disabled, demoralized, distracted, and controlled.
  • The result is not only an unnecessary and devastating division and enslavement of our human family, it is also an unnecessary and devastating decimation of the very natural resources that make continued human life possible! Ultimately, it is an unbridled bastardization, retardation, and murder of both humanity and Earth!
Literal religions have been used to divide and disable people for centuries.

Agnostic just doesn't cut it for me - too wishy washy.

Atheists (some but not all) who understand the problem (and the solution) stand up and speak out.

Spirituality has absolutely nothing to do with adopting a specific religion or believing in a fictitious God.

It is realizing that the entire universe is connected, by the mystical flow of cause and effect at every scale.

As we go about our lives striving to be healthy and happy, we should also be striving to help the world around us be healthy and happy - simple common sense.
  • Of course, spirituality ultimately means far more than simply living according to what should be common-sense ethics; it also means balancing one's limited sense of self, self-knowing, self-guidance, etc. with one's mystical relationship to the infinite universe.
  • To the extent that one is successful in balancing one's own finite identity and significance with one's infinite identity and significance, one will be overcome by authentic and unconditional love.

And love is the key to a better world!

My mother showed me so!

Yes she used the words God and Jesus ... but never as weapons.
 
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Does consciousness to larger things ... cause fear in some gods that retreat into dark and mysterious spots ... never to return to the greater world ... causing some grinding and gnashing ...
 

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Believe is a troublesome word for me ...
"How would you define the word believe?"
 

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Thanks for this Rita. I sometimes think I'm more of an atheist than a believer. I refuse to buy in to a literal, only one way to believe version of religion. Perhaps it is my Celtic roots, and their belief that all things are connected. Perhaps it is the great-grandfather (who I never knew) who used the bible as a weapon, thus influencing me through the people he raised. Perhaps it is having had Irish family who were affected directly by the uprising in 1916. Who knows.

Literal religions have been used to divide and disable people for centuries
Killing in the name of god is never good. Unfortunately, it happens too often.

It is realizing that the entire universe is connected, by the mystical flow
I love this.

As we go about our lives striving to be healthy and happy, we should also be striving to help the world around us be healthy and happy - simple common sense.
Totally simple common sense. :love:
 

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Thanks for this Rita. I sometimes think I'm more of an atheist than a believer. I refuse to buy in to a literal, only one way to believe version of religion. Perhaps it is my Celtic roots, and their belief that all things are connected. Perhaps it is the great-grandfather (who I never knew) who used the bible as a weapon, thus influencing me through the people he raised. Perhaps it is having had Irish family who were affected directly by the uprising in 1916. Who knows.



Killing in the name of god is never good. Unfortunately, it happens too often.



I love this.



Totally simple common sense. :love:
Any kind of killing is not good.
 
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