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If you believe I have said something in this thread which I have just claimed I have not, please quote it. Thank you.--I see said Jae. But it seems only when you want to Brother".
--Jae--I seen scripter that said praise GOD even if you don't feel well.
GOD may just want to see how will act. Could He give riches to others??????
Jae ---why didn't you quote the whole phrase of airclean33's quote above -----all you did was pick a piece of it to suit your own agenda ----
here is the whole quote ------ Why don't GODS Church act, as they have been told? In the Church's beginning , it was one, with only ONE Leader That being The Christ."
Most churches today have themselves as the head of the Church in my experience -----God is left out in the cold ----He is never prayerfully ask what He wants for His Church ---committees sit around and discuss what they want to do -----The only time you here about God in the church maybe is in a sermon and a piece of scripture reading and communion -----Christ for the most part is obsolete ------
And, if my beloved Rev said, "Bette, we need a private jet for me", I'd say "Susan, we need the parking lot re-paved first"...
Sometimes I wonder about the Mega churches......is it just that the pastor refuses to do another church plant if the church is getting too large or do they think that it's partly to do with themselves (rather than God) and their preaching style that people come? I always wondered why a pastor would allow a church to grow to 30,000.....I mean isn't there more of a chance of the community becoming less personal and effective?
I may be wrong.....has anyone here ever belonged to a mega church?
Unfortunately for your Rev. Susan, she doesn't own her own ministry. Apparently that's what megachurch pastors due to join the jetset.
7 Surprising Reasons Why These Pastors Need Private Jets—Just, Wow.
Pastors Explain Why They Need Private Jets - One Mile at a Time
Mega Church Pastors: Private Planes
I have shared the links because I think that it is interesting to hear the arguments made by those who claim they need the private jets. Whether you think it is fair to critique the ministry having a jet or not it is interesting to hear why a jet is considered necessary.
The third link (church lady) is interesting in that it makes it very clear that most of the preachers who made the list subscribe to the prosperity gospel in one form or another. In short, the prosperity gospel is essentially a pyramid scheme set up with a thin veneer of Christianity. A fact which becomes obvious when you notice a) how big these ministries are and b) how the money stays near the top. If all things were held in common then nobody would have too much and nobody would have too little.
I'm less concerned about televangelists than I used to be.
One passage that has helped with that is Luke 16: 19-31 which turns prosperity gospel and the word/faith movement upside down.
It is also interesting to note that the principle proponents of this brand of Christianity are almost entirely based in the US.
BetteTheRed-- Are you not the one ,who said you have no belief ,in Heaven or Hell". Just wondering who are you praying to?Obviously you haven't been involved in a "real" church. At ours, we start and end every meeting with a prayer.
airclean33 said:BetteTheRed-- Are you not the one, who said you have no belief ,in Heaven or Hell". Just wondering who are you praying to?
I believe in both heaven and hell.
Have never prayed once to either of them.
Good you show me were you didn't.If you believe I have said something in this thread which I have just claimed I have not, please quote it. Thank you.
BetteTheRed-- Are you not the one ,who said you have no belief ,in Heaven or Hell". Just wondering who are you praying to?
Like I said above -----God will deal rightly with anyone who uses HIS name for their own benefit ----Not us -----